Hopefully you are using RepCal with D3 mixed with 50/50 Herptivite. Reptical has too much preformed Vitamin A for gex. The good supplements have beta carotene (pre-cursor to Vitamin A) in them so the gecko can form as much as they need. Too much Vit. A leads to some nasty metabolic probs. Easy to avoid!
Julie B.
maleldil wrote:
Ok then. I will continue the calcium dusting with a dish left for browsing. That shouldn't be a big deal. But I will have to think more about switching calcium supplements. I kinda like Rept-cal. It seems to work the best of all the calcium I've tried.
The good news is she passed a small amount of sand today with no apparent side effects. Let's hope there is more to come.
Mike
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Mike---
"Human quality" 100% pure calcium carbonate can be purchased/ordered at some pharmacies as a human dietary supplement, so it would seem to be safe for geckos. I've a 12 ounce container (NOW brand) that I purchased recently for $2.99 US. The only difficulty I've found is that it is super fine, but I don't see that this would pose a problem for calcium left in a dish.
Elizabeth
Subj: Re: [gecko]Sand impaction Date: 3/24/04 11:14:31 AM Pacific Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julie Bergman) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike,
I have switched over to lower D3 ratio supplements like the T-Rex ICB (Insect Cricket Balancer) and Dr. Susan Donoghue's (herpnutrition.com) low D3 supplement. I have no problem feeding all kinds of geckos this everyday. They should get more than just calcium by itself. It is wise to leave a dish of pure calcium carbonate out for females, Susan has that in stock.
Julie B.
maleldil wrote:
> Thanks, Elizabeth,
> > Currently I have the gecko on a paper towel in the hatching
rack. She
> was healthy and normal sized to begin with because she was
actually
> produced by my breeders last year. She is close to adult size
which is
> why I moved her to the regular enclosure. In fact aside from
the bony
> pelvis, she is still thick and normal sized. With all the talk
about
> calcium overdosing, I switched from dusting every feeding to
leaving a
> calcium dish out for the geckos. I can always go back to the
regular
> dusting.
> > Anyway, I will have to see how things go from here.
> > Mike
> > Hi Mike---
>
> First I'd recommend paper towels as a substrate for these small
> geckos. Was this "sick" animal healthy and normal-sized to begin
> with? Are you dusting their crickets with phosphorus-free calcium
> with D3 at every feeding?
>
> I've experienced two rectal prolapses with a 15 gm gecko who
passed
> very small amounts of sand several weeks after each prolapse.
Each
> time this necessitated trips to the nearby ER in the middle of the
> night and ultimately x-rays! The vet recommended feeding only
chicken
> baby food for awhile (which was fed by hand on the gecko's lips),
> using CatLax on the geckos' lips to soften any stools passed,
and a
> tepid water soak once daily. The gecko recovered both times
and seems
> to be doing well now!
>
> I hope this advice is not too late for your young Agamura persica.
>
> Elizabeth
>
>> Subj: [gecko]Sand impaction
>> Date: 3/23/04 7:03:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (maleldil)
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>>
>> This topic comes up quite a bit and I tried to find
something in the
>> archives but no luck.
>>
>> While feeding my young spider geckos I found one with a
"boney"
>> pelvis. I
>> picked her up and felt her abdomen and it has a hard mass
in it.
>> I keep them
>> on sand. I felt the "healthy" female's abdomen to be sure
and it
>> did not
>> have that hard lump. This "sick" female does have mass in her
>> tail and is
>> very energetic so I have found the impaction early. I
thought it
>> might be an
>> egg but I know this is not likely. I put a cricket in her
mouth
>> last night
>> as she bit me for picking her up and sure enough, it was
vomited
>> up this
>> evening. I give her vegetable oil and I soak her in warm
baths. I
>> am just
>> waiting for the sand to pass. My question is, what else is
there
>> that I can
>> do for this gecko? I was thinking I should try the vet but
aside
>> from warm
>> baths and oil or water, there isn't much left to do but
surgery.
>> Can a
>> little 5 gram gecko be cut open by the vet so the sand can be
>> removed? What
>> other sorts of things do vets do to eliminate impactions?
>>
>> Any experiences would be good. I would like to know how vets
>> usually handle
>> impactions in small geckos.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
Elizabeth Seattle
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