Signed and posted to the Reptiles and Geckos communities on Orkut.  Good
luck, obeligz.  Peanut and I have our toes and fingers crossed for you and
your animals.

-Jessica

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Subject: [gecko]Fw: [leachianus] Getting caught with herptiles in Norway
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Please take the time the read this...

Brandon
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From: "obeligz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:03 PM
Subject: [leachianus] Getting caught with herptiles in Norway (off topic)


Dear Group
I am sorry for cross posting this over various mailing lists, forums and
bothering you with off topic threads. The below text is a description of the
legislation around herptiles in Norway and the implications of getting
caught with illegal animals.

As You may know, herptiles are illegal to keep, breed, import and export in
Norway. Norway is 1 out of 2-3 countries in the world where herptiles are
illegal. For what reasons? In Hawaii herptiles are illegal (as far as I
understand) because animals who escape from private collections are likely
to reproduce and may cause a potential threat to native flora and fauna.
This is in my opinion a reasonable reason for banning herptiles in Hawaii.

In Norway the situation is totally different, here the winter is long, cold
and there are extremely few herptile species that can survive the harsh
climatic condition of the Norway. Why reptiles are illegal in my country?
Your guess is as good as mine, probably due to prejudice against herptiles
from the part of politicians uneducated on the matter.

Animals confiscated by the Norwegian government are put to death (perhaps
with very rare exceptions in the cases of extremely rare and endangered
species).

Thursday the police came knocking on my door and all my animals are now
considered confiscated. My house is sealed off with police tape and no one
is allowed to go into it. On Monday the police will return to my house with
the district veterinary to confiscate my animals. At a near point in the
future my animals will most likely be put to death and there is little I can
do about it except hiring a lawyer and hoping for a miracle.

This is not a call for help for my part, but on behalf of herptiles and
herpetoculturists in my country. I have started a roll call and hope to
gather as many signatures as possible as a peaceful protest protest against
the Norwegian government's persecution of herpetoculturists in Norway. I
believe that the legislation in my country is wrong and that all herptile
species are not unjustifiable to keep as captives. The Norwegian
herpetological association has struggled for 12 years to lift the ban on
herpetoculture in my country without success so far. We can't seem to put
enough pressure on our government to make things happen. The roll call I
have initiated is also a protest and sharp criticism against animals being
confiscated and put to death as a consequence of the Norwegian legislation.

If you agree that governments shouldn't be so restrictive as to bann all
herpetoculture within a country, please take the time to visit the below
link and sign the roll call.

http://www.opprop.no/opprop.php?id=befrireptiler

Please feel free to pass this post onto other relevant mailinglists and
forums so that as as many people as possible may sign this role call if they
wish.

Again I am sorry to occupy your time with this kind of inquiery, have a nice
day. Best regards V�len G�nev (obeligz) Committee member of the Norwegian
Herpetological Association
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