Haha well it would have been more intelligent without the typos.
----Original Message Follows---- From: Julie Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gecko]Re: Bug-eyed crested geckos. Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:58:13 -0700
I think this is a very intelligent guess as to what is going on here.
Julie B.
Rick Gale wrote:
I'm just putting my two cents' worth in out of curiosity, etc. Could we be starting to see the first effects of inbreeding cresteds? These cerainly sound like they could be birth defects, and 10 years in captivity is about enough time for that kind of thing to start showing up, I would thing. Just wondering.
Rick
----Original Message Follows---- From: Melody Hartley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gecko]Re: Bug-eyed crested geckos. Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:19:35 -0700
Hi all,
I have a male ciliatus that I bought as a juvenile about 5 years ago. I am wondering if he is what you are describing as bug-eyed. His actual eyeball sticks out unusually far, skin around the eye is normal. I don't believe he can see much. He does not catch crickets on his own, but will someimes eat them if I hold one and tickle his nose with it. His head has retained the shorter-nosed juvenile shape, and he is overall smaller than normal, probably about 2/3 the length of others the same age. I don't know if this is genetic or developmental. I have always housed him singly.
I'd be interseted to know if this matches what others are describing.
Melody
sara joseph wrote:
Hi
I don't usually respond to this list, but since one of the cresteds mentioned is from my stock I definitely should participate in this one. I only had this crested's father for about 2 months after he came out of quarantine, so I wouldn't be able to find out if this is genetic. The crested Hilde mentioned is in my care temporarily because the owner is anxious about it's condition and feeding habits. It was hand fed a mix of babyfood/gargoyle diet and strangely has shown no interest in any live food. I'm attempting to get it feeding on it's own again in the hope that it may restore it's interest in searching for food, hopefully live feeders.
It's not just the bug-eyes that are abnormal, although that aspect is extremely obvious. This gecko also has a strange weight distribution, with it's trunk being very heavy while it's skull, limbs and tail are slender and similar in appearance to the 2 month olds it has been compared to. I will send out some pics when I get home tonight.
I have been searching high and low for any leads, but i'm not coming up with much. I have researched the hypothyroidism angle, but without testing it's T3/T4 levels there is no way we can get a definitive diagnosis. If anyone knows of an institution that would be equipped to test thyroid activity in my general area let me know. (I'm in Toronto, but the U.S. side is ok)
Thanks
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