Yep Lyle, 

I'm still here.  Mostly lurking, though.

Very interesting about the sow bugs.  Never would
have thought of trying to raise them.  Easy to 
reproduce are they?  I am used to seeing them under
rocks and in damp basements.  Do they dessicate easily
in captivity?  Can they climb glass?

joe




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Subject: Re: [gecko] Orange Pill Bugs
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:11:06 +0100

>Howdy.
>Isopods vary extremely in their quality as food.
>The common sowbugs were never eaten by any of my animals except toads
>and helmeted geckos (Tarentola chazaliae). I am even eager to get rid
>of any sowbug coming with collected moss because they're notorius
>eaters of softshelled lizard-eggs.
>On the other hand here in germany a small white tropical sowbug (very
>softshelled) is a well-used and often cultivated food for any small
>animal, be it frog, cham, or gecko.
>
>A class of rollable Millipeds is often mistaken for the sowbugs that
>can roll up. easiest-to-see difference is the count of legs on a
>segment: while the isopod got one pair of legs/segment, the millipeds
>got two pair/segment (DIPLOPODS). And the Millipeds are the toxic
>ones.
>
>
>Greetings from Hamburg
>
>Sven Vogler
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lyle Puente" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [gecko] Orange Pill Bugs
>Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:03:41 -0500
>
>> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> I haven't heard about any toxicity. Some species do exude and 
>> sticky noxious fluid when molsted. I don't know which and if this 
>> is toxic. I learned about their usefulness with chameleons years 
>> ago and have used them with unknown negative effects. Doesn't mean 
>> they don't have potential though.
>> Any entomologists on the list care to comment ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2005, at 2:44 PM, Mike Martin wrote:
>> 
>> > lyle - you say that people use pill bugs in their terraria to
>help break
>> > down organic matter and consume mites.  for some reason, i think
>i
>> > remember reading somewhere that pill bugs are toxic, otherwise i
>probably
>> > would have attempted using them as a feeder or at least a
>recycler in some
>> > of my terraria.  do you know anything about this as far as native
>north
>> > american pill bugs are concerned?  i'd like to try them in at
>least one of
>> > my setups if you guys really think they're safe.
>> >
>> > mike
>> 
>> Lyle Puente
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>> Global Gecko Association
>> 
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