Hi, Stuart.

On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 17:22 -0500, Stuart Brorson wrote:
> Bill --
> 
> > I have to agree that 1) no Windows version, and 2) difficult
> > installation are real problems for selling gEDA in any real commercial
> > organization.
> 
> I view gEDA as a trojan horse for Linux, since a free EDA suite will
> bring engineers to the good side.  Therefore, I don't care about
> Windows.  I know this is a quixotic minority opinion. . . .

I find that selling high-end EDA software that only runs on Linux
actually helps sell it.  Engineers are dying for a reason to tell the IT
guy he HAS to get a Linux box.

> As for installation, once Ales releases the next rev (coming very
> soon. . . .), I will put my install CD .iso onto geda.seul.org for
> folks to download.  It automates the installation process with a
> Python-based GUI which manages the ./configure && make && make install
> process for all the usual tools (not just gEDA/gaf).  

Cool.  I'd like to check it out when it's available.  I might use it at
work to install on the various machines.  I'm not yet pushing gEDA with
our clients.  A good, reliable install disk might make it worthwhile.

> Since you're apparently distributing gEDA to your customers who don't
> want to hassle with Makefiles, configure, dependencies, and so on,
> it's just the kind of distribution you could use.  Of course, I'd
> prefer to *sell* you the stuff on physical media with a nice gEDA
> label, and your customers might appreciate professional-looking CDs
> too . . . .  Contact me off list if you are interested.

Sure.

> > I've concluded that those of us willing to work with open-source tools
> > don't mind this kind of thing.  Neither the installation or limited
> > platforms keeps me from using it, but of course, I'm a hacker.
> > 
> > Getting average Joe to use it is another matter...
> 
> Yeah, but the ultimate target audience is "Joe Average User".  One
> thing we developers need to keep in mind is that usability is *key*
> for software.
[snip]

I agree.

> > The other issues seem like normal user complaints about typical
> > commercial tools.  gEDA is fine compared to half of them out there.
> 
> Yeah, but it can be better than *all* of them out there!

Frankly, it's already good enough for my needs.

Bill


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