On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 11:24:04PM +0100, Peter Kaiser wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I think, there are very interesting points on this list and we should read it 
> carefully. I think we can distinguish the people using gEDA in two groups:

I think I am in both groups. I do not develop gEDA, however don't have
problems compiling (and I am a programmer).

> 
> 1.The programmers: They have fun, writing this program and know all the 
> compiler flags and different versions of libraries. The have no problem 
> compiling a new program on a system
> 
> 2.The users: They don't care, what scripting language or what version of GTK 
> is used. They just want to make schematics and boards. They prefer a plug and 

If Java were used, I would puke. I care ;-)

> play solution. Every time they start compiling they hope that no error 
> message comes up, because they are lost .... 
> 
> I belong to the second group. First of all I have to say thank you to all the 
> programmers, for the beautiful work they have done. After all the hacking at 

Yes, gEDA rulzzors. Things that rulzzor are not easy to implement. If they
were, our whole world would rulzzor.

> the beginning of the development, gEDA has reached a stable status and I can 
> work in professional projects with it. That very good!!!
> 
> Now its time for the next step. Documentation, tutorials, easy installation 
> procedures, advertisement, press releases ... 
> 
> First actions are already done. Stuart, I love your gEDA installation CD. 
> It's 
> exactly what the second group needs. Plug and play. Cordially wrote a 
> tutorial on linuxfocus.org. ....
> 
> We from the second group (including myself) now have to make it easier for 
> new 
> user to start with gEDA. I am confident, when we take criticism like this 
> serious, we will get a lot of new users.

I am already helping one guy to learn writing schematics in gschem for Ronja:
http://javor.praha12.net:8010/schematics/revolter.png
http://javor.praha12.net:8010/schematics.php

It's interesting how fast he learned (in couple of hours with my hints).
He seems to be somehow professional in electronics. Probably he has some
experience with other CAD systems. But this would mean that gEDA isn't counter-
intuitive.

Cl<

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