Dan,
Again, I didn't learn emacs in academia. I am suggesting, that a survey
of geda users would be more valuable then a sample of one or an assumption.
Steve M.
Dan Andersson wrote:
Steve,
I think the Emacs is an academic favourite, not a commercial one.
We had to pay small fortunes for decent word processors so when the free
Emacs arrived, the academic world loved it. We just added it to the project
costs...
It might be a good tool if you "grow" up with it, i.e - start using it at the
University and continue to do so. However, Emacs nor XEmacs wasn't useful in
the commercial world as there was a training problem - the initial learning
curve was to steep. Again, you don't want multiple word processors at a
company.
I rather use vi or ed - probably because I'm an old git... I don't mind using
line oriented editors like edlin, very efficient and low on memory.
Anyway, leaving this offtopic trail now and may you enjoy your Emacs...
Cheers
Dan
On Monday 21 November 2005 09:47, Stephen Meier wrote:
Dan,
Is this per cpu or per user?
For me.
1 User ;) despite wishing i had multiple personalities that could run
concurrently.
3 Suse boxes of which emacs is mandatory.
Steve M.
Dan Andersson wrote:
Stuart,
Slightly Off Topic but WTH...
I'm sure 99.99% or even a larger proportion of the current and future SuSE
users never uses Emacs and just would not miss it if removed from the
dist!
I just hated the Emacs from the very day it came out... as I was running
both Vax/VMS and Unix at the same time during the early eighties.
Yaya - scripting you say... better done in ed and perl anyway nowadays.
Gnome versus KDE.
KDE seems to please most of the people I work with here in Europe. For
some odd reason, most of the US staff tend to prefer Gnome. However, SuSE
are supposedly changing direction again, and moving towards Gnome as
preferred desktop. Personally, I can't understand why SuSE ditched their
Ximian Desktop as it was a KDE'ified Gnome... Looked good and was nice to
work with.
Anyway... I'm going to take a dive into the snapshot as the earlier
created some trouble for me while attempting to compile.
Also, I can't agree with anyone that complains on a compiler that are "too
strict"... Try write the programs according to the language syntax spec
instead and we would all have lesser compilation and porting problems.
It's nice to see the latest gcc trying to clean up it's own act.
( Yes, I'm originating from an ADA world... )
Cheers
Dan
On Monday 21 November 2005 00:57, Stuart Brorson wrote:
Peter, and anybody else interested:
I put a snapshot of the latest gEDA Suite install CD onto my website:
http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/
The one you want to try is dated 20051120. It is an alpha-test
release. It seems to work on SuSE 10.0, at least in the few
configurations I have tested. Note that SuSE 10.0 doesn't install
gcc, or any of the gtk-devel stuff by default. (It doesn't install
emacs by default either, unless you install the LaTeX package. What's
up with that?!?!?!?) Therefore, you need to make sure these are
installed before running the installer. You also need to install the
Gnome version of the desktop environment -- and not the KDE version --
of course.
Anyway, this snapshot will likely install cleanly for you on SuSE
10.0. Please give it a trial, and let me know about your success or
failure. I hope it will help you, and by testing it you will help me!
Thanks!
Stuart
