Steve, First, assumptions like these are nice - as they creates discussions...
Also, If one where to make a proper study of the use of Emacs, commercial versus academic, I bet a good bottle of scotch on what I wrote earlier... Anyway, as it's off topic really, I let it rest. Cheers Dan On Monday 21 November 2005 15:10, Stephen Meier wrote: > Dan, > > Again, I didn't learn emacs in academia. I am suggesting, that a survey > of geda users would be more valuable then a sample of one or an assumption. > > Steve M. > > Dan Andersson wrote: > >Steve, > > > >I think the Emacs is an academic favourite, not a commercial one. > >We had to pay small fortunes for decent word processors so when the free > >Emacs arrived, the academic world loved it. We just added it to the > > project costs... > >It might be a good tool if you "grow" up with it, i.e - start using it at > > the University and continue to do so. However, Emacs nor XEmacs wasn't > > useful in the commercial world as there was a training problem - the > > initial learning curve was to steep. Again, you don't want multiple word > > processors at a company. > > > >I rather use vi or ed - probably because I'm an old git... I don't mind > > using line oriented editors like edlin, very efficient and low on memory. > > > >Anyway, leaving this offtopic trail now and may you enjoy your Emacs... > > > > > >Cheers > > > >Dan > > > >On Monday 21 November 2005 09:47, Stephen Meier wrote: > >>Dan, > >> > >>Is this per cpu or per user? > >> > >>For me. > >> > >>1 User ;) despite wishing i had multiple personalities that could run > >>concurrently. > >> > >>3 Suse boxes of which emacs is mandatory. > >> > >>Steve M. > >> > >>Dan Andersson wrote: > >>>Stuart, > >>> > >>>Slightly Off Topic but WTH... > >>> > >>>I'm sure 99.99% or even a larger proportion of the current and future > >>> SuSE users never uses Emacs and just would not miss it if removed from > >>> the dist! > >>> > >>>I just hated the Emacs from the very day it came out... as I was running > >>>both Vax/VMS and Unix at the same time during the early eighties. > >>> > >>>Yaya - scripting you say... better done in ed and perl anyway nowadays. > >>> > >>>Gnome versus KDE. > >>> > >>>KDE seems to please most of the people I work with here in Europe. For > >>>some odd reason, most of the US staff tend to prefer Gnome. However, > >>> SuSE are supposedly changing direction again, and moving towards Gnome > >>> as preferred desktop. Personally, I can't understand why SuSE ditched > >>> their Ximian Desktop as it was a KDE'ified Gnome... Looked good and was > >>> nice to work with. > >>> > >>>Anyway... I'm going to take a dive into the snapshot as the earlier > >>>created some trouble for me while attempting to compile. > >>> > >>>Also, I can't agree with anyone that complains on a compiler that are > >>> "too strict"... Try write the programs according to the language syntax > >>> spec instead and we would all have lesser compilation and porting > >>> problems. It's nice to see the latest gcc trying to clean up it's own > >>> act. ( Yes, I'm originating from an ADA world... ) > >>> > >>> > >>>Cheers > >>> > >>> > >>>Dan > >>> > >>>On Monday 21 November 2005 00:57, Stuart Brorson wrote: > >>>>Peter, and anybody else interested: > >>>> > >>>>I put a snapshot of the latest gEDA Suite install CD onto my website: > >>>> > >>>>http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/ > >>>> > >>>>The one you want to try is dated 20051120. It is an alpha-test > >>>>release. It seems to work on SuSE 10.0, at least in the few > >>>>configurations I have tested. Note that SuSE 10.0 doesn't install > >>>>gcc, or any of the gtk-devel stuff by default. (It doesn't install > >>>>emacs by default either, unless you install the LaTeX package. What's > >>>>up with that?!?!?!?) Therefore, you need to make sure these are > >>>>installed before running the installer. You also need to install the > >>>>Gnome version of the desktop environment -- and not the KDE version -- > >>>>of course. > >>>> > >>>>Anyway, this snapshot will likely install cleanly for you on SuSE > >>>>10.0. Please give it a trial, and let me know about your success or > >>>>failure. I hope it will help you, and by testing it you will help me! > >>>>Thanks! > >>>> > >>>>Stuart
