John Doty wrote: > On Jan 15, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Joerg wrote: > >> Feedback I give in groups like this is meant to relay to the program >> architects how the other end of the line works. > > Ah, but the architects also are users. They know how the other ends > of their lines work. >
If they know every corner of all companies that design electronics I'll stop :-) >> If the gEDA goal is to >> achieve some kind of penetration into the industrial world such input >> will be very important. > > I don't speak for the big guns (I'm only a minor developer), but I > perceive your corner of the industrial world as a dead end for EDA. You might be right. But not for the industry, no dead end at all. However, I have heard grumblings from within EDA companies that it is becoming tougher and tougher to make money. One of them is actually more active in telco/data/RF markets now (using the CAD system they designed). > The future will belong to toolkits that can automate more of the > design process, not merely assist in drafting circuits. The future > will belong to designers who are equally comfortable with programming > and drafting. ... Ok, here we will probably always be of different opinion. > ... We've all used the other tools and seen how they > frustrate automation. > For automation we use SCADA-type tools. Reduces the programming efforts to a bare minimum and most of all, it works. >> If that is not the goal then it will not be >> important. > > The kinds of tools you seem to want already exist, and it is not > gEDA's job to duplicate them. You say you find them wanting. You will > always find them wanting: that's the inevitable plight of a demanding > software consumer. But if you master a toolkit you can fly free... > > Hurray for gEDA! Thanks, especially, Ales. > Indeed. He has put a lot of work into this and created a remarkable product. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. _______________________________________________ geda-user mailing list [email protected] http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

