Em Qui 02 Mar 2006 11:53, DJ Delorie escreveu: > > Dj, I looked a lot at your files. The result is absolutelly > > awesome. I didnt understood what are those fat black lines around > > the design. > > Alignment marks. When you do a double sided board with toner > transfer, you need them. Or you can use them to put down a strip of > masking tape to act as an "edge guide" to help position your board.
Hmm, I made one double sided board with toner transfer (and said to myself to never do it again), because I use laserfilms and they have a great deformatin with heat. I used the holes (I first made the holes with my drill, then I transfered onde side and then the other). The board what big, it was about 2h a.m. and I had to show the board working at 8 a.m. and was not only the circuit, but firmware had to work too, and I didnt tested no one. Was a long night. Very long. Dont want to remeber :D I tryed to make another double sided board some weeks ago, but using a board with photoresist in both sides. To do it, I made the holes again to fit on the two films, then I fixed them with clips and I placed the board inside, like an envelope. But didnt worked because my UV light was not good and I was tired, then I sended the board to the fab. At home I cant metalize the holes... someone knows how to do it? > You don't have to print them if you don't want to. If you don't print > the outline (another option), you should print them, so you know where > your board is. > > > Maybe it is strange to you, because AFAIK you allways made your > > boards from the gerber files, but it is cheaper to me made my boards > > from the ps files > > I've used the PS files to make boards before. > > > the films in another print bureau that only accepts gerbers, but I > > dont know why when I have a line on the silk over a pad, those > > prints dont cut the > > We've talked about that. PCB was assuming it could clip silk, but the > fabs don't really support that. I've changed HID so that it prints > silk over pads on the screen, which is what the fabs do anyway, and > it's up to you (and drc?) to avoid that. The PS files will have silk > over pads now too. I wish PCB could deal with it automatically, but > until someone adds the heavy math to just not print silk where it's > not wanted, this is the best we can do. Thats a good news. Because so, the program becomes WYSIWYG :D I just need to redraw my parts... :) > > So, what I will say is not a must have, but is just a sugestion: to > > have an option on the print dialog, to print in one file or separate > > file (please, inside an directory), I think that is better to have > > more options. > > I'll add it to the list. > > > Anyway, the work you are doing is absolutelly awesome. I am just > > afraid about if the work you are doing in Lesstif will be usefull, > > because IMHO the Lesstif are tremendous ugly and outdated. But its > > just great. > > Have you tried it? Lesstif is neither ugly nor outdated, it's just > not what you're used to. IMHO, Lesstif is ugly yes. Well, I am very ugly too... and Xaw is ugly too. I just think that Qt or GTK are visually much more attractive, themeable, etc... > And the whole point of HID is that YOU get to choose which gui you > use, and everything else stays the same. Both GUIs use the same print > engine, the same gerber plotter, the same autorouter, etc. Thats a good thing, I mean. Its good to have option, but I think how much problem is to have some duplicated (or triplicated, or more) work to make the same thing, i.e., to draw the GUI for the PCB core.
