> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 08:44:13AM +0000, Russel Winder wrote:
>On Wed, 2016-11-16 at 14:58 -0500, Roger wrote:
>> I have used AutoTools for my or others' projects as well in the past,
>> and find??
>> AutoTools quite stable, albeit sometimes cryptic to configure at
>> times.
>> I've tried educating myself with CMake, but found only low-level
>> documentation??
>> packaged with or available via CMake's website.????All CMake's other
>> third party??
>> documentation costs, or are supposedly inadequate.????Unfortunately or??
>> fortunately, CMake is still unusable at my end of the user
>> spectrum.????As to??
>> Python being popular due to multi-platform use (and slow when
>> compared to??
>> C/C++/Bash Scripting); CMake is similar, providing cross-platform
>> use.
>The same is also true of Autotools, no nice documentation and way too
>low level, So CMake is at least a step up.

Autotools does offer a lot of documentation, however it is quite lengthy and 
seems to require additional lifetimes for reading and studying.  (e.g.  
Autotools A Practioner's Guide to GNU Autoconf, Automake, and Libtool By John 
Calcote, 2010; and the GNU Autoconf Manual offered in many formats such as 
HTML, ASCII Text, PDF, PostScript, ...)

>I do not see the logical connection between Python being slow compared
>to C++ and CMake.

Try programming using limited resources.  You'll quickly find C/C++ and likely 
most scripting preceeding Python to be much less resource intensive.  (Except 
for likely BASIC.)  No worries, many do not even obviously see this slowing 
effect, due to always having the fastest computers at their finger tips.  ;-)


>OK so you do not like Python. I'm afraid that is your problem.

>But I get the message: total lack of interest in anything other than
>I am now sorry I even mentioned the idea of upgrading to a more modern
>approach to build.

... still quite busy learning Autotools here. ;-)

I personally would rather struggle a bit; versus forgetting all of my past 
lessons learned and getting spoiled and always relying on faster, more power 
consuming computers.  But then again, I do not get much time for coding 
nowadays except for Winters; although I am one of those always building (& 
sometimes) packing the software for distributions.



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