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While the American military subjected Syria to bombardment by dozens of Tomahawk cruise missiles, its most important ally, the US media, subjected the American population to its own bombardment—nonstop propaganda claiming that the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad is guilty of using nerve gas on its own population. There has been no investigation on the ground to substantiate the claims by Syrian rebel groups, mainly affiliated with Al Qaeda, that 70 people died from the use of chemical weapons in the town of Khan Sheikhoun in Idlib province. *Video footage and photographs, which are easily manipulated or faked, have served in the place of evidence* There has been no serious media examination of the evidence around the Idlib gas attack, in part because there is no evidence to present. The Russian counterclaim that Syrian warplanes struck an Al Qaeda nerve gas factory has been dismissed out of hand, although the Al Qaeda affiliate in Syria, the group formerly named the al-Nusra Front, is known to possess such facilities and to have used such weapons. *Another problem with the Assad gas attack narrative is that the US government, along with Russia and the United Nations, supervised the destruction of Syria’s stockpile of banned chemical weapons in 2013-2014, under an agreement brokered by Russian President Vladimir Putin to call off a previous planned US missile strike on Syria, under the Obama administration.* *US intelligence agencies repeatedly certified that Syria’s chemical weapons stocks had been destroyed, and that the Assad regime was adhering to the Putin-Obama agreement. Now these same intelligence agencies claim that the Assad regime has made use of the same nerve gas weapons that were supposedly trucked out of Syria, loaded onto ships, and destroyed under US supervision.* Then there is the bothersome question of what could have motivated the regime of Bashar al-Assad, at a time when it has largely completed the military rout of the US-backed “rebels,” to give Washington a pretext for intervention by suddenly and gratuitously dropping a nerve gas bomb on Khan Sheikhoun, a town of no military significance. *Moreover, Paul Craig Roberts has also said that**:* *Indeed, one reason for the rush to war** is to prevent the UN inspection that Washington knows would disprove its claim and possibly implicate Washington in the false flag attack by the “rebels,” who assembled a large number of children into one area to be chemically murdered with the blame pinned by Washington on the Syrian government……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..* *The Syrian government, knowing that it is not responsible for the chemical weapons incident, has agreed for the UN to send in chemical inspectors to determine the substance used and the method of delivery. However, Washington has declared <http://news.antiwar.com/2013/08/25/obama-administration-accepts-rebels-account-on-syria-prepares-for-war/%20See%20also%20http:/news.antiwar.com/2013/08/25/syria-accepts-un-inspectors-us-spurns-call-as-too-late/> that it is “too late” for UN inspectors and that Washington accepts the self-serving claim of the al Qaeda affiliated “rebels” that the Syrian government attacked civilians with chemical weapons**. * *In an attempt to prevent the UN chemical inspectors who arrived on the scene from doing their work, the inspectors were fired upon by snipers in “rebel” held territory and forced off site, although a later report from RT says <http://rt.com/news/un-chemical-oservers-shot-000/> the inspectors have returned to the site to conduct their inspection. ………...* *The war criminals in Washington and other Western capitals are determined to maintain their lie that the Syrian government used chemical weapons. Having failed in efforts to intimidate the UN chemical inspectors in Syria, Washington has demanded that UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon withdraw the chemical weapons inspectors before they can assess the evidence and make their report. The UN Secretary General stood up to the Washington war criminals and rejected their demand**.* *https://www.newsbud.com/2013/08/26/syria-another-western-war-crime-in-the-making/ <https://www.newsbud.com/2013/08/26/syria-another-western-war-crime-in-the-making/>* *Should it is true that Bashar Al Assad regime has attacked the children with chemical weapon than why did the US government objected the investigation of the United Nations to find the truth? Why did the US government requested Ban Ki Moon to withdraw the chemical weapons inspectors to do their job? What did the US government would like to conceal? Why did the US government get afraid should the UN’s chemical weapons inspectors find the truth? Should Assad regime has really attacked the children with chemical weapons, then why did they have agreed for the UN to send in chemical inspectors for invesigation? Siang, could you put forward a logical answers to these questions as a logical reason for the said high level of confidence that the attack was done on the direction of Bashar Al Assad, and accordingly that is not just a blind suspicion?* *From:* [email protected] [mailto:chindodiscuss@ googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jong Wie *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:04 PM *To:* Gillian Widjaja; [email protected] *Cc:* Felix Fadjar Marta; Tjoangie; [email protected]; [email protected] *Subject:* Re: [chinese-indonesian-discussion-group] Rand Paul Wants to See Evidence of Syrian Chemical Strike | LifeZette To me, Assad did nt have any reason to throw the chemical bomb. BTW, some chemical guys believe that it was not Saran gas shown in the videos and pictures. The reason is if it were nerve gas as suspected, none of the emergency responder could survive. Anyway, I hope it is something just like a "bomb tweet" to call attention to start a deal making process with Russia and Assad himself. JW ------------------------------ *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Siang Tan <[email protected]> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 3:52 AM *To:* Gillian Widjaja *Cc:* Felix Fadjar Marta; Tjoangie; [email protected]; [email protected] *Subject:* Re: [chinese-indonesian-discussion-group] Rand Paul Wants to See Evidence of Syrian Chemical Strike | LifeZette Dear Friends, I just noticed these on Google: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/07/heres-the-pentagons- evidence-assad-used-chemical-weapons/ <http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/07/heres-the-pentagons-evidence-assad-used-chemical-weapons/> Here’s The Pentagon’s Evidence Assad Used Chemical Weapons <http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/07/heres-the-pentagons-evidence-assad-used-chemical-weapons/> dailycaller.com The Pentagon released a map Thursday that reportedly shows the flight pattern of a Syrian aircraft that dropped chemical weapons on civilians Tuesday. [caption id="attachment_5579811" align="ali “We have a very high level of confidence that the attacks were carried out by aircraft under the direction of the Bashar al-Assad regime, and we also have very high confidence that the attacks involved the use of sarin nerve gas,” U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told reporters Thursday. National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster similarly told reporters “our intelligence community in cooperation with our friends and partners and allies around the world collaborated to determine with a very high degree of confidence precisely where the location originated. And then, of course, the sorts of chemicals that were used in the attack.” “The regime will maintain the certain capacity to commit mass murder with chemical weapons, we think, beyond this particular airfield. But it was aimed at this particular airfield for a reason, because we could trace this murderous attack back to that facility,” he continued. Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/07/heres-the- pentagons-evidence-assad-used-chemical-weapons/#ixzz4dvKTCo2p <http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/07/heres-the-pentagons-evidence-assad-used-chemical-weapons/#ixzz4dvKTCo2p> Here’s The Pentagon’s Evidence Assad Used Chemical Weapons <http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/07/heres-the-pentagons-evidence-assad-used-chemical-weapons/#ixzz4dvKTCo2p> dailycaller.com The Pentagon released a map Thursday that reportedly shows the flight pattern of a Syrian aircraft that dropped chemical weapons on civilians Tuesday. [caption id="attachment_5579811" align="ali https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3286709/is-this-the-proof- syrian-butcher-bashar-al-assad-ordered-chemical-weapons-attack-on-syrian- women-and-children/ <https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3286709/is-this-the-proof-syrian-butcher-bashar-al-assad-ordered-chemical-weapons-attack-on-syrian-women-and-children/> Is this the proof Assad ordered chemical weapons attack on Syrian civilians? <https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3286709/is-this-the-proof-syrian-butcher-bashar-al-assad-ordered-chemical-weapons-attack-on-syrian-women-and-children/> www.thesun.co.uk BASHAR al-Assad’s chemical arsenal was pictured in shocking images emerging from the airbase devastated by US air strikes, it is claimed. Pictures released by Russia news agencies show catast… *BANG TO RIGHTS* Is this the proof Syrian butcher Bashar al-Assad ordered chemical weapons attack on Syrian women and children? Pictures from the Shayrat air field targeted by US missile strikes appear to show chemical weapons storage barrels https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/06/postmortems- confirm-syria-chemical-attack-turkey-says <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/06/postmortems-confirm-syria-chemical-attack-turkey-says> Putin stands by Assad as firm evidence of chemical attack ... <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/06/postmortems-confirm-syria-chemical-attack-turkey-says> www.theguardian.com Calls on Russia to restrain Syrian ally increase after Turkey says postmortems confirm uses of chemical weapons https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/06/postmortems- confirm-syria-chemical-attack-turkey-says <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/06/postmortems-confirm-syria-chemical-attack-turkey-says> Putin stands by Assad as firm evidence of chemical attack ... <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/06/postmortems-confirm-syria-chemical-attack-turkey-says> www.theguardian.com Calls on Russia to restrain Syrian ally increase after Turkey says postmortems confirm uses of chemical weapons https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/05/syria- chemical-weapons-attack-what-we-know-khan-sheikhun Syria chemical weapons attack: what we know about deadly air raid <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/05/syria-chemical-weapons-attack-what-we-know-khan-sheikhun> www.theguardian.com Experts say it is too early to say whether sarin or a mix of substances was used in the attack on rebel-held Khan Sheikhun Syrian government planes carried out a dawn raid on the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhun <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/04/syria-chemical-attack-idlib-province> on Tuesday morning. Following the airstrikes, residents reported whole families found dead in their beds, with victims and injured survivors showing symptoms that match poisoning by nerve agents. Médecins Sans Frontières, whose doctors treated some of the victims, said both a nerve agent and chlorine appeared to have been used <http://www.msf.org/en/article/syria-khan-sheikhoun-victims-have-symptoms-consistent-exposure-chemical-substances> . “Victims smelled of bleach, suggesting they had been exposed to chlorine,” the group said in a statement, after detailing symptoms of neurotoxins. “These reports strongly suggest that victims of the attack on Khan Sheikhun were exposed to at least two different chemical agents.” *Russia has denied that Syria launched a chemical weapons attack. Does their argument have any credibility?* Syria’s military has “categorically denied” responsibility for the attack. Russia, which is heavily backing the Assad government, said a Syrian government airstrike had hit a “terrorist warehouse” holding “toxic substances”. So an airstrike on a storage facility would be unlikely to release sarin itself. And because one of the two components is highly flammable isopropyl alcohol, or rubbing alcohol, you would expect a fireball, which has not been observed. Chemical weapons <https://www.theguardian.com/world/chemical-weapons> have helped Assad hold on to power during a long and brutal civil war, at the cost of immense civilian suffering. The fact that he has faced no real consequences for their use risks setting a dangerous precedent, with implications that carry far beyond Syria, weapons expert Guthrie said. “You would have expected the use of chemical weapons, as deployed by Assad in 2013, would result in him being deposed by his own people or by the international community. “That hasn’t happened, so what is the disincentive for a dictator to think, ‘This is a weapons system that might help me survive.’” Very sad....the only solution to stop this madness of killing is peace talk of a solid political solution in the Mid East. What do you think ?? Siang On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:20 AM, Siang Tan <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Friends, Interesting, but let's not draw any wild conclusion yet. The spontaneous emotional presidential decision on the missile launch could be based on the wrong security information (just as Bush invasion of Iraq), however as Rand Paul (I personally like him as a politician) said, the evidences have not been disclosed yet. The oil pipe issue in Syria have been discussed repeatedly in our emails. The US will not go to war for oil as the US has plenty of oil on the US soil. and has plenty of national reserve The reason the US still imports oil is because the imported oil is cheaper than the domestic oil. Previous US presidents wanted to topple Assad as he is considered the source of instability in the Mid East (which I doubt !!), however Trump seems not to want to topple Assad...which would make the Mid East problem less complicated. I am not sure that P. C. Roberts is a "jujur" politician as he is now more known as a professional sensational news writer with many of his wild political interpretation to draw public attention.....it is very entertaining to read all his amazing politcal conclusions, which is not always followed by the general US public consensus. We all hoping that Trump does not escalate the North Korean problem by sending warships to the area. Trump should, as China suggested, talk to the North Koreans first, as he said he is willing to do.......let's all hope so for the world peace sake!! Salam, Siang 2017-04-10 23:25 GMT-07:00 'Gillian Widjaja' via Chinese Indonesian Discussion Group <[email protected]>: Ka Tjoen, Apa yang AS katakan adalah penghinaan terhadap kecerdasan manusia. Nanti jika PBB mau melakukan penelitian terhadap asal muasal itu senjata kimia yang baru saja dipergunakan di Syria, akan lebih gila lagi kalau AS mengeluarkan veto..... Hanya saja kalau diveto, owe rasa mereka akan kehilangan respek dan negara2 EU juga akan semakin menjauh dari kebijakan2 luar negeri AS. Dikatakan bahwa penyerangan terhadap pangkalan udara militer Syria, yang notabene bukan merupakan pangkalan aktif, adalah merupakan peringatan untuk RRT dalam kaitannya dengan pengembangan nuklir Korea Utara. Itulah mentalitas koboi yang tidak faham tentang sifat dan budaya bangsa Asia pada umumnya dan bangsa Tionghoa pada khususnya. Xi tidak akan berkomentar tetapi ia akan engambil sikap "anjing menggonggong, kafilah tetap berlalu". Salam, BTik ------------------------------ *From:* Felix Fadjar Marta <[email protected]> *To:* 'Tjoangie' <[email protected]>; 'Gillian Widjaja' < [email protected]> *Cc:* [email protected] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 6:38 AM *Subject:* [chinese-indonesian-discussion-group] Rand Paul Wants to See Evidence of Syrian Chemical Strike | LifeZette Tjoangie & Bing Tik, Rand P:aul adalah seorang politisi yang jujur, sama seperti Paul Craig Roberts. Dia pasti sudah tahu dan lebih penting lagi, tidak suka ber-pura2 tidak tahu. Kalo Amerika memang kasi senjata kimia sama pemberontak untuk dengan sengaja membunuh dan mengorbankan anak2 yang tidak berdosa, se-mata2 untuk dituduhkan kepada razim Al Assad seperti yang dikatakan oleh Paul Craig Roberts, mana mungkin ada bukti bahwa Assad yang melakukan serangan. Oleh karena itu Assad tidak berkeberatan agar PBB sebagai pihak yang netral melakukan investigasi. Malahan yang justru keberatan adanya investigasi adalah Amerika sendiri dengan alasan sudah terlambat, dan minta Ban Ki Moon menghentikan usaha investigasi, tetapi ditolak. Lalu team yang melakukan investigasi ditembaki. Pernyataan Ron Paul bahwa: “He’s either the dumbest dictator in the world, or it may be more confusing,” sudah menjawab apa yang dibingungkan oleh Bing Tik. Lhaaa….Assad sebagai pihak yang menang mengapa perlu bikin busuk namanya dengan melakukan serangan kimia? Jelas sekali tidak logis bukan? *Pernyataan Rex Tillerson bahwa:* *regime change was not America’s goal.* *Adalah sangat mentertawakan karena ini adalah suatu kebohongan yang lain. Dia p;ikir dunia gampang ditupu. Sudah sangat jelas bahwa tujuan Amerika adalah penggantian rezim, karena Amerika mau install pipa gas, tapi Assad tidak kasi ijin, lalu apa aalsan Amerika membantu pemberontak dan ISIDS untuk melawan rezim Al Assad?* *Sekali lagi, apa yang dilakukan Amerika sekarang di Syria sudah semakin memperjelas bahwa politik luar negera Amerika yang berdasarkan kebohongan dan tipu muslihatnya tetap sama dan tidak berubah dari waktu ke waktu sehingga sangat gampang dibaca.* Rand Paul Wants to See Evidence of Syrian Chemical Strike Kentucky senator says Intelligence Committee needs to review proof Assad ordered sarin attack by Brendan Kirby <https://www.lifezette.com/author/brendankirby/> | *Updated* 07 Apr 2017 at 11:51 AM Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said on Friday that the Senate Intelligence Committee needs to review the evidence linking Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to a chemical-weapons attack that prompted Thursday night’s missile strike <http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/trump-strikes-syria-chemical-attack/> by the U.S. *On the surface, Paul said, it makes no sense for Assad to use chemical weapons. He was winning the six-year-old civil war, had the support of Russian troops on the ground, and, just days earlier, received a public statement from U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson that regime change was not America’s goal.* * “He’s either the dumbest dictator in the world, or it may be more confusing,” Paul said on “The Laura Ingraham Show.”* Paul, a longtime critic of U.S. military intervention in Middle East conflicts, made clear he is not peddling a conspiracy theory. “I would like to see the evidence … In all this rush, why don’t we at least look at the intelligence instead of getting somebody’s conclusion on TV second-hand from the president,” he said. “I don’t dispute the evidence,” he said. “I just haven’t seen it.” *Salam,* *KT* -----Original Message----- From: Tjoangie [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 3:28 PM Subject: Syria: Trump May Just have Started World War III | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/rand-paul-wants-see- evidence-syrian-chemical-strike/ Von meinem iPad gesendet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Chinese Indonesian Discussion Group" group. 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