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tmaslam.2...@yahoo.com [GELORA45]" <GELORA45@yahoogroups.com> Date: 2/16/20
2:07 AM (GMT-08:00) To: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com, "B.H. Jo" <b...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [GELORA45] The US had nearly 30,000 flu deaths in the past 5
months, which was entirely unremarkable???
Nimbrung.
Seorang kenalan - viroloog dari indonesia mengatakan:,,Virus Flu musiman (
seasonal ) - musim dingin mematikan lebih banyak orang di Eropa, tapi tidak
pernah dibahas."
salam,
Titiek Maslam
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Van: 'B.H. Jo' b...@yahoo.com [GELORA45]
Datum: 02/14/20 19:19:39
Aan: gelora45@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: [GELORA45] The US had nearly 30,000 flu deaths in the past 5 months,
which was entirely unremarkable???
Komentar: Diskusi dilakukan oleh penulis dari Cornell University di AS (salah
satu universitas yg terkemuka di dunia) dan Choi (orang asal atau keturunan
Korea). Jadi bukan propaganda dari Tkk.
Di AS sudah ada 30000 orang meninggal krn influenza dlam 5 bulan belakang ini
tetapi tidak biberitakan di AS. sedangkan kematian di di Tkk kurang dari 1500
dlm kurang dari 3 bulan sudah di-gembor2 kan. Ini salah satu usaha AS utk
menghancurkan ekonomi Tkk. Selain itu ada kemungkin Wuhan coronavirus adalah
biological weapon yg dilakukan oleh AS thd Tkk.
Tulisan yg relevan saya rubah menjadi tulisan merah supaya bisa tidak membuang
waktu.
Answer ·
The United States of America · Topic you might like
Why is the new Chinese coronavirus seen as especially concerning? The US had
nearly 30,000 flu deaths in the past 5 months, which was entirely unremarkable,
so the numbers coming out of China don't seem very alarming to me.
Choi Julian, M.S. from Cornell University
Answered 17h ago
I am sick and tired of all the fear mongering in all the answers to this
question.
If you just have to say, “look at all the drastic measures China is taking, it
obviously is no good! And we can’t trust their numbers!”
Great! Then we can at least trust the numbers outside of China, right? cuz no
one wants this to spread in their country and every country keeps close
attention to it.
So far, covid19 has 505 confirmed cases outside of China, two deaths. The case
fatality rate outside of China is 0.39%. The seasonal flu CFR fluctuate between
0.3% to 0.8%. This is the number you can count on!
And even if we include China into the calculation, CFR outside of Hubei
province is 0.6%. CFR of Hubei Province is 2.9%.
The reason death rate is high in Hubei province is that we can’t know for sure
how many people are infected because there is limit to our capability to test
and find out who got infected. The healthcare services in Wuhan was crippled
due to the large influx of patients and many of them could not receive proper
care until medical staffs in other parts of China arrive and new hospitals are
built. And now they are being taken care of.
So in conclusion, if this covid19 spread like a flu all over the world, the CFR
will stay at around 0.3–0.6%, which overlaps with that of a seasonal flu.
The reason China react this way is two fold.
1.This is a new corona virus we knew nothing previously. Due to the SARS
epidemic in 2003, Chinese government were very cautious and intend to arrest
its spread.
2.Wuhan is the epicenter of this outbreak. Tens of thousands were infected and
they needed proper care which no city in the world could provide in this amount
in a short notice.
China decided to quarantine the region so that this virus will not spread too
much to other places. This will free up the medical staffs in other regions of
China who then can go to Wuhan to treat them altogether. So far, over 10
thousands medical staff members have arrived at Hubei province to treat
patients there. While this virus is under control outside Hubei province,
people can convene their resources to support Hubei.
So the strategy of China is to sacrifice Hubei for the greater good of the
country. And then the whole country can pull all the resources and efforts to
rescue Hubei province. And it’s working.
We can stop with all the fear mongering to ourselves and look at this with
numbers objectively. It’s good for our sanity.
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Tony Tan
16h ago · 14 upvotes including Choi Julian
You can't ask them to stop the fear mongering because it's intentional. Now I
know why those imperialist democratic people always push China towards non
censorship. That's because propaganda and lies are their main weapon.
Garry Aye
15h ago · 15 upvotes including Tony Tan
I used to buy into all the anti-China rhetoric…
It’s one of those things that you absolutely don’t see until you see it, and
then you can’t unsee it. It’s fucking everywhere. Media outlets I used to trust
to be factual like NYT and CNN are just blatantly, irrationally hostile when it
comes to China.
A lot of it just imperialistic bullshit that thinks China should act like a
colony.
Norman Tan: You have been red pilled. Or is it blue?
Lim San
14h ago · 7 upvotes including Choi Julian
The west is capitalising on this episode to create fear and attempt to reduce
trade and cooperation between other countries and China.
If China's flu is a threat, then US's flu should be a bigger threat. Yet there
is little news coverage. Sick.
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