Lho di mana salah pahamnya???? Wong jelas-jelas meletakkan  "kerinduan" , yang 
satu kepada Soviet Unie, dan yang satunya lagi kepada ORBA dalam satu konteks 
dan satu level!!! Justru orang dungu kalau tidak mengerti itu!
    On Thursday, March 26, 2020, 01:40:22 PM GMT+1, S Manap rana...@yahoo.se 
[GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> wrote:  
 
     

 
   Jangan salah paham dalam menanggapi tulisan/pendapat orang. Yang 
dipersoalkan itu kerinduan orang. Yang satu merindukan jaman Uni Sovyet. Sedang 
yang satu lagi yang merindukan jama Orde Baru. 
   Terlalu dungu kalau ada orang yang membandingkan jaman Svyet Uni dan jaman 
Orde Baru,





    Den torsdag 26 mars 2020 13:27:48 CET, Tatiana Lukman 
jetaimemuc...@yahoo.com [GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> skrev:  
 
     

 Aneh, kok orang "kiri"bisa membandingkan Soviet Unie dengan ORBA Suharto yang 
telah membantai jutaan rakyat tak berdosa!! Ah, sudah tentu mereka yang 
anti-Stalin bisa juga langsung berargumentasi Stalin juga telah membunuh jutaan 
orang di gulak. Itulah argumentasinya orang-orang anti-komunis!!
    On Thursday, March 26, 2020, 01:20:34 PM GMT+1, S Manap rana...@yahoo.se 
[GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> wrote:  
 
     

 
      Di Rusland banyak orang menindukan kehidupan di jaman Sovyet Uni yang 
sudah lama berlalu. Di Indonesia banyak orang yang merindukan kehidupan "yang 
enak" dijaman Orba/Soeharto berkuasa. "Enak hidup di jamanku" kata Soeharto.
   Ya, sama-sama rindulah. Tentunya banyak yang masih ingat lagu lama:
   Rindu rasa hatiku,   Karena kau pergi jauh. ......   dast..dst... 
   Salam.
   SM.       Den torsdag 26 mars 2020 10:18:22 CET, Tatiana Lukman 
jetaimemuc...@yahoo.com [GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> skrev:  
 
     



75% of Russians Say Soviet Era Was 'Greatest Time' in Country’s History – Poll


    Russians have expressed increasingly positive opinions about the Soviet 
Union over the years, with nostalgia toward the U.S.S.R. and approval of Stalin 
hitting record highs in the past year or so.Andrei Nikerichev / Moskva News 
Agency
Three out of four Russians think the Soviet era was the best time in their 
country’s history, according to a survey published by the independent Levada 
Center pollster on Tuesday.


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Russians have expressed increasingly positive opinions about the Soviet Union 
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Just 18% of Russian respondents said they disagree with the idea that the 
Soviet Union was the best time in their country’s history, Levada said.

Despite this, only 28% of respondents said they would want to “return to the 
path that the Soviet Union was following.” Fifty-eight said they support 
Russia's “own, special way” and 10% said they preferred the European path of 
development.

When asked to name the things they associate with the Soviet era, 16% of 
respondents pointed to “future stability and confidence” and 15% said they 
associated it with “a good life in the country.” Eleven percent said they 
associate the Soviet era with personal memories from their childhood or youth.

Only a small portion of those surveyed said they had negative associations with 
the Soviet Union. The economic deficit, long lines and coupons were named by 4% 
of respondents each, while the Iron Curtain, economic stagnation and political 
repressions were named by 1% each, the Levada Center said.

Levada sociologist Karina Pipiya told the Vedomosti business daily that while 
Russians tend to view the Soviet era in a mostly positive light, their personal 
memories of that time have largely been replaced by a general image of social 
stability, confidence in the future and a good life during that time.







According to Pipiya, nostalgia for the Soviet Union is more common among older 
generations, but it exists among younger people as well. The so-called 
romanticization of the Soviet past doesn’t necessarily equal a wish for the 
Soviet system’s return, Vedomosti quoted Pipia as saying.

Andrei Kolesnikov, a senior associate at the Carnegie Center Moscow think tank, 
told Vedomosti that the poll’s results are a reflection of the public’s 
sentiments toward Russia’s current reality. 

“The Soviet era may not be seen as a time of high living standards, but as a 
time of justice. Today's state capitalism is viewed as unfair: the injustice is 
in distribution, access to goods and infrastructure. And this feeling is 
growing stronger,” Vedomosti quoted Kolesnikov as saying.

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