Lho di mana salah pahamnya???? Wong jelas-jelas meletakkan "kerinduan" , yang satu kepada Soviet Unie, dan yang satunya lagi kepada ORBA dalam satu konteks dan satu level!!! Justru orang dungu kalau tidak mengerti itu! On Thursday, March 26, 2020, 01:40:22 PM GMT+1, S Manap rana...@yahoo.se [GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Jangan salah paham dalam menanggapi tulisan/pendapat orang. Yang dipersoalkan itu kerinduan orang. Yang satu merindukan jaman Uni Sovyet. Sedang yang satu lagi yang merindukan jama Orde Baru. Terlalu dungu kalau ada orang yang membandingkan jaman Svyet Uni dan jaman Orde Baru, Den torsdag 26 mars 2020 13:27:48 CET, Tatiana Lukman jetaimemuc...@yahoo.com [GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> skrev: Aneh, kok orang "kiri"bisa membandingkan Soviet Unie dengan ORBA Suharto yang telah membantai jutaan rakyat tak berdosa!! Ah, sudah tentu mereka yang anti-Stalin bisa juga langsung berargumentasi Stalin juga telah membunuh jutaan orang di gulak. Itulah argumentasinya orang-orang anti-komunis!! On Thursday, March 26, 2020, 01:20:34 PM GMT+1, S Manap rana...@yahoo.se [GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Di Rusland banyak orang menindukan kehidupan di jaman Sovyet Uni yang sudah lama berlalu. Di Indonesia banyak orang yang merindukan kehidupan "yang enak" dijaman Orba/Soeharto berkuasa. "Enak hidup di jamanku" kata Soeharto. Ya, sama-sama rindulah. Tentunya banyak yang masih ingat lagu lama: Rindu rasa hatiku, Karena kau pergi jauh. ...... dast..dst... Salam. SM. Den torsdag 26 mars 2020 10:18:22 CET, Tatiana Lukman jetaimemuc...@yahoo.com [GELORA45] <gelora45@yahoogroups.com> skrev: 75% of Russians Say Soviet Era Was 'Greatest Time' in Country’s History – Poll Russians have expressed increasingly positive opinions about the Soviet Union over the years, with nostalgia toward the U.S.S.R. and approval of Stalin hitting record highs in the past year or so.Andrei Nikerichev / Moskva News Agency Three out of four Russians think the Soviet era was the best time in their country’s history, according to a survey published by the independent Levada Center pollster on Tuesday. | | | | | | | | | | | Структура и воспроизводство памяти о Советском Союзе С чем ассоциируется у жителей России советская эпоха; сожалеют ли они о распаде СССР и какие информационные исто... | | | Russians have expressed increasingly positive opinions about the Soviet Union over the years, with nostalgia toward the U.S.S.R. and approval of Stalin hitting record highs in the past year or so. | | | | | | | | | | | Nostalgia for the Soviet Union Hits 14-Year High in Russia, Poll Says The Moscow Times Public polling has increasingly shown that a growing number of Russians regret the Soviet collapse and approve o... | | | Just 18% of Russian respondents said they disagree with the idea that the Soviet Union was the best time in their country’s history, Levada said. Despite this, only 28% of respondents said they would want to “return to the path that the Soviet Union was following.” Fifty-eight said they support Russia's “own, special way” and 10% said they preferred the European path of development. When asked to name the things they associate with the Soviet era, 16% of respondents pointed to “future stability and confidence” and 15% said they associated it with “a good life in the country.” Eleven percent said they associate the Soviet era with personal memories from their childhood or youth. Only a small portion of those surveyed said they had negative associations with the Soviet Union. The economic deficit, long lines and coupons were named by 4% of respondents each, while the Iron Curtain, economic stagnation and political repressions were named by 1% each, the Levada Center said. Levada sociologist Karina Pipiya told the Vedomosti business daily that while Russians tend to view the Soviet era in a mostly positive light, their personal memories of that time have largely been replaced by a general image of social stability, confidence in the future and a good life during that time. According to Pipiya, nostalgia for the Soviet Union is more common among older generations, but it exists among younger people as well. The so-called romanticization of the Soviet past doesn’t necessarily equal a wish for the Soviet system’s return, Vedomosti quoted Pipia as saying. Andrei Kolesnikov, a senior associate at the Carnegie Center Moscow think tank, told Vedomosti that the poll’s results are a reflection of the public’s sentiments toward Russia’s current reality. “The Soviet era may not be seen as a time of high living standards, but as a time of justice. Today's state capitalism is viewed as unfair: the injustice is in distribution, access to goods and infrastructure. 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