i'm fighting to keep Gem alive, not to kill it.

Le 16/11/2017 à 03:57, Ivica Ico Bukvic a écrit :
Why not instead focus on Jonathan's work on implementing WebGL inside Purr-Data 
canvas (which is already in node webkit) and by doing so obtain most of the Gem 
functionality in a way that does not mess with the audio interrupt?

On Nov 15, 2017 12:05, "cyrille henry" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

    hello,
    i'm sorry it took so long, I have lot's of work.

    I found 2 platform :

    https://pledgie.com/
    and :
    https://www.bountysource.com/

    pledgie get 3% of the donation, bountysource get 10%.

    unless anyone have a better idea, i'll start to go with pledgie
    cheers
    c



    Le 30/10/2017 à 17:38, cyrille henry a écrit :

        Hello,

        I've check Iohannes github: There is not a lot's of release critical 
issue.

        Image, film and video under osX and having a way to compile for window 
and the main issues.

        There is also lot's of stuff regarding FTGL, but they look to be 
obsolete. At least, we will know if they are obsolete after being able to 
compile Gem on the concerned platform.

        Since Iohannes is currently too buzzy to help, I think we should 
organize development in 2 parts :

        1st : doing the minimum to have Gem usable on all platform.
        We could then release a v0.94 and use it to test on lot's of computer 
and reporting all bugs.
        Then, a 2nd development round could create a 0.94.1 bugfix release with 
a longer lifetime.

        if there is no objection, I will have a look at the platform we could 
use to centralize financing and stuff.
        cheers
        c



        Le 12/10/2017 à 10:34, cyrille henry a écrit :

            hello Max

            Le 12/10/2017 à 10:04, Max a écrit :

                Bonjour Cyrille,

                This sounds good, there was the idea of some bounty system 
years ago too.
                I think it's crucial for this process to

                1. break up the job in small manageable parts

            yes, that's the idea of using the github bug tracker. Spiting jobs 
in bugs.
            (and use flags to create priorities)


                2. well define their scope and define what "job completed" 
entails

            I think it imply that the push request is accepted, and the code is 
merged upstream.

                3. set up a system that doesn't come with a huge administration 
overhead


            yes, this is a problem.
            The reduce amount of developers interested in this job will make 
things simpler.


                It almost seem there should be a platform for this out there...


            yes, I don't think administration will be a show stopper.


                https://www.bountysource.com/teams/pure-data/issues 
<https://www.bountysource.com/teams/pure-data/issues>
                this one looks like it parses github issues.. kind of shady.



                On 2017년 10월 12일 09:46, cyrille henry wrote:

                    Hello,

                    Since the "get money, paid a developer" idea arise on the 
mailing list, I spend last weeks trying to think how to organize the last bit of 
development that need to be done.

                    I think we need a clear roadmap : a list of all object / platform that need to 
be fixed. My proposition is to use/update the bugtracker and to organize everything that need to be 
done under the "release critical" tag. There is a bit of work there. For example 
"native film reading in osX/64 bit" is not mark as release critical.
                    Also, there is 2 critical bug regarding W32 build : do we 
need to be able to compile Gem on mingw AND mscv?

                    With this list of "release critical" bugs, it will be 
easier to estimate the work that need to be done. It will allow to estimate the 
development time, and the bounty we could offer for this work.

                    With the financial help of New Blankets, other 
institutions, associations or users, I confident that we will be able to 
finance this work (or part of this work).

                    does this sound good?

                    cheers
                    Cyrille

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