I think both symmetric and asymmetric systems need to be configurable. The 
latter is going to become more and more common in the future. 

Thanks,
Ali

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On May 30, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Gabriel Michael Black <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> I'd like to see things still architected primarily around Cores (which is a 
> better name, I think)  than CPUs and for CPUs to be a configuration 
> convenience primarily used at the python level. We don't want to force people 
> into having CPUs set up in a particular way or with particular components by 
> baking certain flavors of them into the rest of the simulator, but the idea 
> in general seems pretty reasonable. Or in other words, I'd like to see this 
> make things easier for the 90% who have normal looking CPUs while not making 
> things any harder for the 10% who have some wacky scratch pad memory or an 
> asymmetric cache hierarchy or an L2 on the CPU or whatever.
> 
> Gabe
> 
> Quoting nathan binkert <[email protected]>:
> 
>> I like the idea.  Can we rename BaseCache to Cache while we're at it?
>> I'm not going to volunteer, but the best way to make this work IMHO is
>> to write a script that does the searching/replacing and make that one
>> patch on its own.  Then create another patch that fixes up any
>> mistakes.  This serves two purposes.  First, you can just drop the old
>> patch and regenerate it whenever you update your script, and second,
>> all we need to do is review your script and the second patch.  We've
>> done this sort of thing many times in the past and to be honest, it's
>> not that hard.  The hardest part is dealing with the fact that scripts
>> and stat names end up getting affected.
>> 
>>  Nate
>> 
>>> I am sure there are lots of ideas and opinions about the modelling of a 
>>> core vs CPU vs cluster, and I am keen to know how people feel about doing 
>>> some major re-naming and introduce some new levels of hierarchy in the 
>>> world of gem5 models.
>>> 
>>> For a number of reasons (e.g. performance-monitoring, power modelling, 
>>> trace playback, etc) the current gem5 notation of a CPU is a bit 
>>> misleading, as it is actually only a core. Additionally, the separation of 
>>> core and caches complicates modelling of aspects that span the entire CPU 
>>> (core + caches), for example for the performance-monitoring. There have 
>>> also been examples in the past on the user and dev list of questions like 
>>> "how do it get a pointer to my L1", for very similar reasons.
>>> 
>>> I am sure there are more reasons than I have listed here, and I would like 
>>> to propose a transition to a more well-defined hierarchy of core(s), CPU(s) 
>>> and clusters. A starting point would be to rename CPU -> core throughout 
>>> the codebase. After that we could introduce a SimObject CPU that would 
>>> include core(s) and L1(s), and also have getters for the latter. The next 
>>> level again would be a cluster, containing CPU(s) and caches.
>>> 
>>> This change also needs to be coupled with updates to how cores are 
>>> enumerated, numbered, initialised, modelling of power states, etc.
>>> 
>>> Ideas, feedback, and volunteers are appreciated :-)
>>> 
>>> Andreas
>>> 
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