Hi Steve,

Apologies for the confusion. We are on the same page. My point is that we
cannot simply take a little bit of patch A and a little bit of patch B.
This change involves a lot of code, and we need to approach this in a
structured fashion. My proposal is to do it bottom up, and start by
getting the basic support in place. Since http://reviews.gem5.org/r/2826/
has already been on the review board for a few months, I am merely
suggesting that the it would be a good start to relate the newly posted
patches to what is already there.

Andreas



On 24/06/2015 13:11, "gem5-dev on behalf of Steve Reinhardt"
<gem5-dev-boun...@gem5.org on behalf of ste...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi Andreas,
>
>I'm a little confused by your email---you say you're fundamentally opposed
>to looking at both patches and picking the best features, then you point
>out that the patches Curtis posted have the feature of better
>checkpointing
>support so we should pick that :).
>
>Obviously we can't just pick patch A from Mohammad's set and patch B from
>Curtis's set and expect them to work together, but I think that having
>both
>sets of patches available and comparing and contrasting the two
>implementations should enable us to get to a single implementation that's
>the best of both. Someone will have to make the effort of integrating the
>better ideas from one set into the other set to create a new unified set
>of
>patches; (or maybe we commit one set and then integrate the best of the
>other set as patches on top of that), but the first step is to identify
>what "the best of both" is.  Having Mohammad look at Curtis's patches, and
>Curtis (or someone else from ARM) closely examine Mohammad's patches would
>be a great start.  I intend to review them both, though unfortunately my
>time has been scarce lately---I'm hoping to squeeze that in later this
>week.
>
>Once we've had a few people look at both, we can discuss the pros and cons
>of each, then discuss the strategy for getting the best features in.  So
>far I've heard that Mohammad's patches have a better network model but the
>ARM patches have better checkpointing support; that seems like a good
>start.
>
>Steve
>
>On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:26 AM Andreas Hansson <andreas.hans...@arm.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Great work. However, I fundamentally do not believe in the approach of
>> ‘letting reviewers pick the best features’. There is no way we would
>>ever
>> get something working out if it. We need to get _one_ working solution
>> here, and figure out how to best get there. I would propose to do it
>> bottom up, starting with the basic multi-simulator instance support,
>> checkpointing support, and then move on to the network between the
>> simulator instances.
>>
>> Thus, I propose we go with the low-level plumbing and checkpoint support
>> from what Curtis has posted. I believe proper checkpointing support to
>>be
>> the most challenging, and from what I can tell this is far more limited
>>in
>> what you just posted Mohammad. Could you perhaps review Curtis patches
>> based on your insights, and we can try and get these patches in shape
>>and
>> committed asap.
>>
>> Once we have the baseline functionality in place, then we can start
>> looking at the more elaborate network models.
>>
>> Does this sound reasonable?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 24/06/2015 05:05, "gem5-dev on behalf of Mohammad Alian"
>> <gem5-dev-boun...@gem5.org on behalf of al...@wisc.edu> wrote:
>>
>> >Hello All,
>> >
>> >I have submitted a chain of patches which enables gem5 to simulate a
>> >cluster on multiple physical hosts:
>> >
>> >http://reviews.gem5.org/r/2909/
>> >http://reviews.gem5.org/r/2910/
>> >http://reviews.gem5.org/r/2912/
>> >http://reviews.gem5.org/r/2913/
>> >http://reviews.gem5.org/r/2914/  <http://reviews.gem5.org/r/2914/>
>> >
>> >and a patch that contains run scripts for a simple experiment:
>> >http://reviews.gem5.org/r/2915/
>> >
>> >We have run several benchmarks using this infrastructure, including NAS
>> >parallel benchmarks (MPI) and DCBench-hadoop
>> >(http://prof.ict.ac.cn/DCBench/),
>> >and would be happy to share scripts/diskimages.
>> >
>> >We call this *pd-gem5*. *pd-gem5 *functionality is more or less the
>>same
>> >as
>> >Curtis's patch for *multi-gem5.* However, I feel *pd-gem5 *network
>>model
>> >is
>> >more thorough; it also enables modeling different network topologies.
>> >Having both set of changes together let reviewers to pick best features
>> >from both works.
>> >
>> >Thank you,
>> >Mohammad Alian
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