I just double checked, and the gem5 repository being used for regressions
(as checked out on the machine) doesn't have all the stats fixes I checked
in a couple days ago. I'd really like to make it use git instead of hg, but
I don't have write access to the necessary files.

Gabe

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Andreas Sandberg <[email protected]>
wrote:

> That's caused by a setting in gerrit. I think we just forgot to turn on
> copyAllScoresOnTrivialRebase for the maintainer label.
>
>
> //Andreas
>
> ________________________________
> From: gem5-dev <[email protected]> on behalf of Gabe Black <
> [email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 7:25:36 PM
> To: gem5 Developer List
> Subject: Re: [gem5-dev] nightly regressions
>
> I had to rebase my CLs, and that seems to have dropped the maintainer +1.
> Could you please reapply? Hopefully that's not something we'll have to do
> for each patch, although I think before I had to rebase for each patch in a
> series. Do you know if there's some setting that's making that necessary?
>
> Gabe
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Gabe Black <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > No, I think you reviewed the only one which doesn't just update the
> stats.
> > It would be fine to just mark the other ones as good to go.
> >
> > Gabe
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Jason Lowe-Power <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Gabe,
> >>
> >> Thanks for going through and updating the stat files for all of the
> recent
> >> changes. The people who used to volunteer to do that haven't had time
> >> lately.
> >>
> >> Is there any reason I shouldn't just check off on all of the stats
> >> changes?
> >> Is there anything in the changesets to review?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:29 AM Steve Reinhardt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Here's the changeset Andreas was referring to:
> >> >
> >> > http://repo.gem5.org/gem5?cmd=changeset;node=b2720503a978
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Gabe Black <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I can't add reviewers due to a known issue, but here is the stack of
> >> CLs
> >> > > which fix the regressions:
> >> > >
> >> > > https://gem5-review.googlesource.com/#/c/2641/
> >> > >
> >> > > Gabe
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 3:35 AM, Gabe Black <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Oh, also, the problem with EIO I think is not because there are
> EIO
> >> > > > regressions, it's that the EIO code is being added in with EXTRAS
> >> and
> >> > > > breaking the build for certain targets. Excluding it would be
> fairly
> >> > > > trivial if I had write permission for the regression script on
> >> zizzer.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Gabe
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 3:32 AM, Gabe Black <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Yeah, there are a lot of problems with the current system. It has
> >> > three
> >> > > >> real functions:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> 1. Making sure things run from end to end without crashing.
> >> > > >> 2. Checking for inadvertent changes to the stats.
> >> > > >> 3. Checking for non-determinstic behavior.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Unfortunately it takes a really long time to run, doesn't
> >> distinguish
> >> > > >> between trivial and non-trivial divergence in behavior, is really
> >> hard
> >> > > to
> >> > > >> merge, doesn't tell you what's not working if something is
> broken,
> >> has
> >> > > >> dependencies with major complications, isn't very useful when
> >> people
> >> > > >> diverge from upstream, etc.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I think there is definitely a role for that sort of test since
> >> those
> >> > are
> >> > > >> meaningful, but then there are lots and lots of potential testing
> >> that
> >> > > >> we're not doing. We should have the few unit tests that already
> >> exist
> >> > > all
> >> > > >> either pass or fail, not just output something, and then make
> them
> >> > > >> easy/automatic to run, and we should have more of them. There are
> >> vast
> >> > > >> swathes of functionality that really should be tested with unit
> >> tests
> >> > > like:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> 1. The CPU models.
> >> > > >> 2. All the instructions for all the ISAs.
> >> > > >> 3. All the Device models.
> >> > > >> etc. etc.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> The amount of work it would/will take to cover the gap in testing
> >> is
> >> > > >> enormous, but in my opinion that's the technical debt that has to
> >> be
> >> > > paid
> >> > > >> down to straighten things out.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Gabe
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 2:55 AM, Andreas Sandberg <
> >> > > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> On 01/04/2017 12:27, Gabe Black wrote:
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>> Hi folks. I'm working through the nightly regressions to get
> them
> >> > to a
> >> > > >>>> good
> >> > > >>>> point for a rebase of our internal branch of gem5, and I've
> >> noticed
> >> > a
> >> > > >>>> few
> >> > > >>>> things:
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> 1. The stats have been changed but not updated a bunch of
> times.
> >> > I've
> >> > > >>>> identified almost all the points this has happened since the
> >> > > references
> >> > > >>>> were last updated, and have patches which fix them. Some stat
> >> > changes
> >> > > >>>> are a
> >> > > >>>> little fishy, but I'll at least identify the guilty change(s)
> so
> >> > that
> >> > > >>>> their
> >> > > >>>> authors can look them over.
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> This is really hard to get right with the current system of
> "push
> >> to
> >> > > >>> submit". I would really like to avoid including stat updates in
> >> > normal
> >> > > >>> code submissions. It would make it really hard to automatically
> >> > submit
> >> > > >>> code (there would be stat conflicts for every single non-trivial
> >> > > change)
> >> > > >>> and it'd make cherry-picking really annoying.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> Ideally, the CI system should compare the stat output after
> >> applying
> >> > a
> >> > > >>> CL to the previous stat update. That way, you can easily spot
> the
> >> > > >>> difference when submitting new code.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> 2. The SPARC FS regression were just plain not running because
> its
> >> > > >>>> configuration had been broken. I'll have a patch to fix this.
> >> > > >>>> 3. The nightly regressions are still checking gem5 out from
> >> > mercurial.
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> We should obviously fix this. However, the repo is kept in sync
> >> with
> >> > > the
> >> > > >>> golden git repo using a cron, so it's not quite as bad as it
> >> seems.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> 4. The "encumbered" repository has, as far as I can tell, not be
> >> > > >>>> converted
> >> > > >>>> from mercurial to git. Probably this isn't a problem because
> this
> >> > code
> >> > > >>>> is
> >> > > >>>> mostly unchanging and becoming less relevant over time,
> >> especially
> >> > > since
> >> > > >>>> EIO support was removed from the process classes (it was,
> >> right?).
> >> > > >>>> 5. The EIO code is also broken, because it tries to call
> "fatal"
> >> > with
> >> > > a
> >> > > >>>> "(void)" cast in front of it in a ternary operation. Something
> >> like
> >> > > >>>> "foo ?
> >> > > >>>> (void)fatal("a bad thing happened") : (void)fatal("a different
> >> bad
> >> > > thing
> >> > > >>>> happened")". What "fatal" expands to now is apparently not
> >> > compatible
> >> > > >>>> with
> >> > > >>>> this usage. Since I can access the encumbered repository, I can
> >> > > attempt
> >> > > >>>> to
> >> > > >>>> fix this.
> >> > > >>>> I can (and in at least in some cases will) fix most of these
> >> issues,
> >> > > >>>> except
> >> > > >>>> maybe 4 if we still want encumbered to exist. Please speak up
> if
> >> > I've
> >> > > >>>> misinterpreted something or am missing some important bit of
> >> > context.
> >> > > >>>> [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg19438.
> html
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> As far as I know, the encumbered/EIO repo has been deprecated.
> >> There
> >> > > was
> >> > > >>> a discussion about deprecating old and broken ISAs a while back
> >> [1],
> >> > > >>> that resulted in removing EIO as a way to reduce the test
> >> overhead.
> >> > > >>> Steve sent out an email, which no one replied to, asking for EIO
> >> > users
> >> > > >>> [2] shortly after the discussion. I think he disabled EIO tests
> >> after
> >> > > >>> that.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> We should probably think about what fixing means in this case. I
> >> have
> >> > > >>> actively removed stat diffing from tests that I consider to be
> >> > > >>> functional (e.g., atomic boot, CPU switching, checkpointing).
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> I wouldn't mind disabling stat diffing altogether until we have
> >> > figured
> >> > > >>> out what to do for performance regressions. I'd prefer to see
> some
> >> > more
> >> > > >>> directed performance tests that target specific components
> (e.g.,
> >> > using
> >> > > >>> traces) and specific stats.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> //Andreas
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> [2] https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg19379.
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