Hi all,

I just added an issue for this on our issue tracker:
https://gem5.atlassian.net/browse/GEM5-212. Please put any comments
there if you want to continue the conversation!

The issue is currently slated for completion by April for the gem5-20 release.

Cheers,
Jason

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:41 PM Gabe Black <gabebl...@google.com> wrote:
>
> I was ultimately able to find some documentation over here:
>
> http://www.roma1.infn.it/SIC/_OLD_documentazione/unix/migr/digital-unix-doc/DOCUMENTATION/HTML/AA-PY8AC-TET1_html/TITLE.html
>
> but I was suprised at how hard it was to find. I think the other ISAs are
> probably not too hard to maintain since they have (to my knowledge) a
> decent amount of documentation out there, but I guess Alpha was too
> proprietary in its day, and too far dead for there to be much of any grass
> roots open source-ey documentation and support out there for it.
>
> I think for Alpha, the support effort and the likelihood of breaking
> something while trying to maintain it blind may have tipped it into the not
> worth it category.
>
> Gabe
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 10:20 AM Steve Reinhardt <ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It would be sad for me personally but I don't disagree.  I think earlier
> > our support for other ISAs was not as strong so Alpha was still valuable,
> > but now that we have support ranging from very good to great for ARM, x86,
> > and RISC-V, it's hard to justify continuing to put effort into it.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:32 AM Jason Lowe-Power <ja...@lowepower.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Does this hint at the fact that maybe we don't need to have support for
> > > Alpha anymore? If we can't find documentation I feel like it's unlikely
> > > anyone is using this.
> > >
> > > I hate to bring this us again, but dropping support for uncommon ISAs
> > would
> > > provide a lot of benefits including:
> > > - Simplifying code
> > > - Removing untested and/or dead code
> > >
> > > And, most importantly, it would prevent people from doing inappropriate
> > > research. There were recently some questions on gem5-users or stack
> > > overflow asking for help getting an ancient Alpha disk image with Parsec
> > on
> > > it running. There's no way it's appropriate to use a disk image, kernel
> > > image, and benchmarks compiled ~10 years ago for research today.
> > >
> > > <Ducks and covers>,
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:21 AM Steve Reinhardt <ste...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > If I have anything it's on the hard drive of a machine that needs some
> > > work
> > > > before it will even boot, sorry...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 11:19 PM Gabe Black <gabebl...@google.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey, does anybody have some documentation tucked away somewhere which
> > > > > documents the Alpha ABI? I don't seem to have that anywhere, and the
> > > > > internet isn't being very helpful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gabe
> > > > >
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