Ah.  Well, I don't care so much.  The device isn't a real thing
though, it's totally fake.  Should possibly just call it AlphaBackdoor
or ConsoleBackdoor.

  Nate

2008/4/3 Steve Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'd say ConsoleFirmware is the firmware that drives the console, while
> FirmwareConsole is the console device that's provided by the firmware.  It
> seems to me we're talking about the latter (the device) rather than the
> former (the firmware itself), which is why I find the latter name more
> logical.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:28 PM, nathan binkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've heard it referred to as ConsoleFirmware, but never
> > FirmwareConsole.  Google has a slight preference for the former.
> > I tried:
> >    alpha console firmware
> > and
> >    alpha firmware console
> >
> >  Nate
> >
> > 2008/4/3 Steve Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I think the adjective/noun sense is reversed there... isn't the object
> > > really the FirmwareConsole and not the ConsoleFirmware?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:27 AM, nathan binkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's probably better.  I'm cool with "Terminal" and
> "ConsoleFirmware"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Gabe Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > Maybe call it ConsoleFirmware?
> > > > >
> > > > >  Gabe
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  Ali Saidi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The only problem is that the BootConsole has almost nothing to do
> with
> > > a
> > > > > serial console to watch booting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ali
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 3, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Gabe Black wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hopefully this gets through. I think this would help a lot. When
> I
> > > hear
> > > > > BootConsole, I think a serial console to watch boot. If there's also
> a
> > > > > Terminal, I'd likely assume that's what I want and just ignore
> > > BootConsole.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gabe
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > nathan binkert wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't disagree which is why I changed it to BootConsole.  I
> > > didn't
> > > > > > > > want to drop the word console though.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What about SimConsole -> Terminal?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  Nate
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Ali Saidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think the real issue is that the term Console as applied
> to
> > > the
> > > > > early
> > > > > > > > > booting code of Alpha is not generally known. We can call it
> > > > > something that
> > > > > > > > > it isn't, but that confuses the people who know.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ali
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:10 PM, nathan binkert wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I only know of two uses of Console.  The display console
> and
> > > the
> > > > > alpha
> > > > > > > > > > console.  The issue with the latter is that it's
> explicitly
> > > called
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > console in the alpha code.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I could rename SimConsole to Terminal.  How would that do?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nate
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > My one concern is that all the forms of "Console" might
> be
> > > > > getting
> > > > > > > > > > > a bit ambiguous, especially if other ISAs have something
> > > > > similar. I
> > > > > > > > > > > can't think of anything that conflicts with in any of
> the
> > > ISAs
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > most familiar with, but it's something to watch out for
> if
> > > you
> > > > > drop
> > > > > > > > > > > the "Alpha" at least.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Gabe
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > nathan binkert wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I've got a bunch of default renaming in my tree:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > default output directory is now: ./m5out
> > > > > > > > > > > > default stats filename is now: <outdir>/stats
> > > > > > > > > > > > default config file output is now: <outdir>/config
> > > > > > > > > > > > default console output is now:
> <outdir>/<sysname>.console
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > In doing the last one, I decided to rename SimConsole
> ->
> > > > > Console and
> > > > > > > > > > > > AlphaConsole to BootConsole.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Does that all seem alright?  I only want to do this
> all
> > > once
> > > > > since it
> > > > > > > > > > > > will potentially require people to rewrite scripts and
> > > > > requires fixing
> > > > > > > > > > > > up the regression stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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