I reread the thread a little more carefully... are we talking about the fake
boot firmware itself?  If so, then ConsoleFirmware is fine with me.

If we're talking about the boot console device that the firmware provides
(or the file that records the I/O that happens through that device) then
something like FirmwareConsole is better.

Originally I thought it was the latter case, but on rereading the thread I
see that you are actually referring to the former... right?

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:04 PM, nathan binkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ah.  Well, I don't care so much.  The device isn't a real thing
> though, it's totally fake.  Should possibly just call it AlphaBackdoor
> or ConsoleBackdoor.
>
>  Nate
>
> 2008/4/3 Steve Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I'd say ConsoleFirmware is the firmware that drives the console, while
> > FirmwareConsole is the console device that's provided by the firmware.
>  It
> > seems to me we're talking about the latter (the device) rather than the
> > former (the firmware itself), which is why I find the latter name more
> > logical.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:28 PM, nathan binkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I've heard it referred to as ConsoleFirmware, but never
> > > FirmwareConsole.  Google has a slight preference for the former.
> > > I tried:
> > >    alpha console firmware
> > > and
> > >    alpha firmware console
> > >
> > >  Nate
> > >
> > > 2008/4/3 Steve Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think the adjective/noun sense is reversed there... isn't the
> object
> > > > really the FirmwareConsole and not the ConsoleFirmware?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:27 AM, nathan binkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > That's probably better.  I'm cool with "Terminal" and
> > "ConsoleFirmware"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Gabe Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > > > Maybe call it ConsoleFirmware?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Gabe
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Ali Saidi wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The only problem is that the BootConsole has almost nothing to
> do
> > with
> > > > a
> > > > > > serial console to watch booting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ali
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Gabe Black wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hopefully this gets through. I think this would help a lot.
> When
> > I
> > > > hear
> > > > > > BootConsole, I think a serial console to watch boot. If there's
> also
> > a
> > > > > > Terminal, I'd likely assume that's what I want and just ignore
> > > > BootConsole.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gabe
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > nathan binkert wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I don't disagree which is why I changed it to BootConsole.
>  I
> > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > > want to drop the word console though.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What about SimConsole -> Terminal?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  Nate
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Ali Saidi <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think the real issue is that the term Console as
> applied
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > early
> > > > > > > > > > booting code of Alpha is not generally known. We can
> call it
> > > > > > something that
> > > > > > > > > > it isn't, but that confuses the people who know.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ali
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:10 PM, nathan binkert wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I only know of two uses of Console.  The display
> console
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > alpha
> > > > > > > > > > > console.  The issue with the latter is that it's
> > explicitly
> > > > called
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > console in the alpha code.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I could rename SimConsole to Terminal.  How would that
> do?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Nate
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > My one concern is that all the forms of "Console"
> might
> > be
> > > > > > getting
> > > > > > > > > > > > a bit ambiguous, especially if other ISAs have
> something
> > > > > > similar. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > can't think of anything that conflicts with in any
> of
> > the
> > > > ISAs
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > > most familiar with, but it's something to watch out
> for
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > > > drop
> > > > > > > > > > > > the "Alpha" at least.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gabe
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > nathan binkert wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I've got a bunch of default renaming in my
> tree:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > default output directory is now: ./m5out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > default stats filename is now: <outdir>/stats
> > > > > > > > > > > > > default config file output is now: <outdir>/config
> > > > > > > > > > > > > default console output is now:
> > <outdir>/<sysname>.console
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In doing the last one, I decided to rename
> SimConsole
> > ->
> > > > > > Console and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > AlphaConsole to BootConsole.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that all seem alright?  I only want to do
> this
> > all
> > > > once
> > > > > > since it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > will potentially require people to rewrite scripts
> and
> > > > > > requires fixing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > up the regression stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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