Yeah, I wouldn't have expected that either, but if that's what you're
seeing it's hard to argue otherwise. I don't think that's an inherent
behavior of LTO, but it might be an unintended side effect somehow, maybe
pulled in indirectly? It's probably worth a Jira ticket.

Gabe

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 1:48 PM Bobby Bruce <bbr...@ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> In regards to debug symbols on the stable branch: All i can say for sure
> is the debug symbols are being stripped right now with LTO enabled by
> default, and they aren't stripped if you pass `--no-lto`. I wouldn't have
> expected LTO to work this way, but this is our observation and one of the
> reason's we're going to disable it by default.
>
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> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 1:43 PM Gabe Black <gabe.bl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't think LTO strips debug symbols... But yes, LTO does significantly
>> increase link time if your machine doesn't have lots of cores to
>> parallelize the link. It slows it down in general, but with gcc you can
>> parallelize the link with LTO where you can't without LTO for some reason,
>> and that outweighs the other overhead if you have enough cores to throw at
>> it.
>>
>> Especially when running in a virtual machine, you might just be running
>> out of memory. LTO will use more ram, and if you run out things will fail
>> in potentially strange ways.
>>
>> It sounds like you have a workaround for now so this may be a moot point,
>> but in general, when you report compiler errors (or errors in general) it's
>> very helpful to provide the error output instead of just describing the
>> errors. That provides a lot of helpful detail which can make diagnosing the
>> problem much easier.
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 1:07 PM Bobby Bruce via gem5-users <
>> gem5-users@gem5.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the report Eliot. In this case there's no need to file a bug
>>> report as we're about to produce a minor release of gem5 that will off LTO
>>> by default. I'm not familiar with this particular problem you are facing,
>>> but we've found we need to turn it off for other reasons (1. It increases
>>> links times for some users to unacceptable levels and 2. LTO strips debug
>>> symbols which you'll need if you want to run tools such as GDB).
>>>
>>> I'm hoping we can ship the minor release sometime this week!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Bobby R. Bruce
>>> Room 3050,
>>> Kemper Hall, UC Davis
>>> Davis,
>>> CA, 95616
>>>
>>> web: https://www.bobbybruce.net
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 12:43 PM Eliot Moss via gem5-users <
>>> gem5-users@gem5.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Gem5-ers:
>>>>
>>>> I have been trying to build Gem5 out of the box, for x86, on a
>>>> VirtualBox
>>>> virtual machine set up for 64-bit Ubuntu 20.04 ("focal").  I can do
>>>>
>>>> scons build/X86/gem5.opt
>>>>
>>>> but it will succeed only if I disable link time optimization LTO using
>>>> --no-lto.  I've tried various versions GCC - 7, 8, 9, and 10 - and all
>>>> produce the same result.  (I think the key thing is probably something
>>>> in
>>>> binutils, but I don't know what version to try to obtain, and this
>>>> version of
>>>> Ubuntu does not readily offer anything other than 2.34.)
>>>>
>>>> Searching the web about this general problem mostly produces the
>>>> "solution" of
>>>> disabling LTO.  So, where should we / I file a bug report?  By turning
>>>> on LTO
>>>> reporting, I have found that the proximal cause is that decoder.o does
>>>> not
>>>> have a .debug_str section and yet there are a huge number of references
>>>> to
>>>> things that should be there (labels, I guess - the decode *would* have
>>>> a lot
>>>> of those!).
>>>>
>>>> Regards - Eliot
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