Thanks. I have no problem with this explanation. Maybe it will
become a candidate for BCP status in a year or two.

   Brian

On 2009-05-12 09:37, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote:
> So to summarise, my understanding is that this document provides a way of 
> using the protocol tools that are normatively specified elsewhere, rather 
> than creating the protocol itself. As such informational would appear to be 
> appropriate.
> 
> regards
> 
> Keith
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Shida Schubert [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:35 PM
> To: Brian E Carpenter
> Cc: [email protected]; General Area Review Team; 
> [email protected]; Cullen Jennings
> Subject: Re: Gen-ART LC review of draft-ietf-sip-ua-privacy-07.txt
> 
> 
>  I have sent the copy of this e-mail from my personal e-mail address,
> so sending it again from the address listed in the draft.
>  I apologize if people are receiving a duplicate copy.
> 
> Brian;
> 
>  Many thanks for your review.
> 
>  I have pasted relevant text from your comments and replied to
> them inline..
> 
> [Brian]
> Comments:
> ---------
> 
> Apart from the small point mentioned below, I didn't find any technical
> issues with this draft, but it left me feeling a little uncomfortable. It 
> isn't
> a standard, it isn't an experiment, it isn't a description of current 
> practice,
> so what is it?
> [Brian]
> 
>  We had a draft which clarified the use of RFC3323 (Currently in the
> AUTH48 state) along with the recommendation to use tools that were
> not available at the time of RFC3323. WG decided to take on the
> portion which described the toolset that were recently defined to obtain
> user's privacy as a BCP, and we progressed the portion that clarified
> the use of RFC3323 as a separate draft and submitted as an independent
> submission.
> 
>  As the toolset recommended in this draft aren't widely deployed
> and not even an RFCs, the WG agreed to change the status to
> informational.  (We really believed the referenced specifications
> namely GRUU and TURN were to be an RFCs by the time this
> draft was to be published.)
> 
>  There are more and more implementations of GRUU observed at
> interop test events and some in deployments and TURN are seeing
> tractions as well, so putting this out there will ensure the use of
> proper toolsets to obtain privacy in SIP without relying on what is
> defined in RFC3323.
> 
> [Brian]
> Minor issues:
> -------------
> 
> Referring to section 5.1.2, note that in RFC5364, 
> "sip:[email protected]"
> is a MUST rather than a SHOULD. I don't know whether that interacts with the
> current draft in any way.
> [Brian]
> 
>  Sniplet from the introduction of RFC5364 --
> 
>   Additionally, we provide the sender with the
>    capability of indicating in the URI list that one or more resources
>    should be anonymized, so that some recipients' URIs are not disclosed
>    to the other recipients.  Instead, these URIs are replaced with
>    anonymous URIs.
>  --
> 
>  So the anonymization is for not the sender itself but for the recipients
> of the copied messages (receivers). The UA-privacy is about obtaining
> the privacy of the sender thus there is no interaction that we have to
> worry about between this draft and RFC5364. But thanks for bringing
> this up anyhow.
> 
>  As for the reference I will update the reference and resubmit the version 08 
> of the draft.
> 
>  Many Thanks
>   Regards
>    Shida
> 
> 
> On 5-May-09, at 11:45 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> 
> <draft-ietf-sip-ua-privacy-07-carpenter.txt>
> 
> 
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