Hi Jari,

Personally, I'm willing to try this. I was just wondering what our
"standard" template would be for this. Something like this perhaps:

The WG Chairs requested a Gen-ART review for this draft. For background on
Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at
<http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>.

Please resolve these comments along with any Area Director comments
you may receive.

Document: draft-ietf-foobar...
Reviewer: Brian Carpenter
Review Date: 2013-07-10
IETF LC End Date: TBD
IESG Telechat date: TBD

Summary:  Needs work...

Also: we would need to update the GenART FAQ slightly. The answer
to "Q: Why is my document being reviewed?" needs changing.

Regards
   Brian

On 11/07/2013 04:53, Jari Arkko wrote:
> I wanted to conclude our earlier discussion on the timing of directorate 
> reviews. Overall I read the thread as cautiously positive for experimenting 
> if this helps or not. But we need to take care of a multiple issues:
> 
> - Figure out the best way for the reviewers to be able to send mail to WG 
> lists
> - Limit the time/scope of the experiment in order to find out what the real 
> effect is on, e.g., reviewer workload
> - Determine whether to review at WG time, IETF last call time, and IESG 
> review time. Right now we are doing the last two.
> - Determine how to start the review, and what the timing is.
> - Carefully select review timing and documents so that they are ready for an 
> external review
> - Shield reviewers from being shouted down by a large group of WG participants
> 
> The suggestions for resolving these items is:
> 
> - We can start the effort by having the WG chairs able to ask for this 
> service. The team can then throttle the requests to a level they see they can 
> handle.
> - Start the experiment now and review in six months, determine success based 
> on interviewing participating reviewers and WG chairs
> - Perform reviews after the WGLC (in parallel with AD reviews)
> - Review documents while they are in the working group, and attempt to have 
> the same person do a review of the new version that is entering the IESG 
> telechat (similar to what we are doing now, but replacing IETF last call 
> review with WGLC review)
> - Require working group chairs to mediate and monitor discussions between the 
> reviewer and the working group
> - Whitelisting might be a feasible solution for making the reviewers able to 
> post to the WG list. Or is there something else that we could do? Rely on the 
> WG chairs approving posts?
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Jari
> 
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