+gen-art review who noted similar issues in the registration policy

On Apr 10, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Pearl Liang via RT <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Hi Sue, and Jeff,
> 
> Thank you Sue for clarifying the timeline and the IANA actions.  Your 
> instructions are very 
> clear.  Just a few nits/question.  
> 
> - Regarding the Form for new created registries:
> 
> Form: Sub-type Value, Name, Reference, Registration Type
> 
> Can you clarify what types of information will go to the element 
> "Registration Type"
> in the BGP Extended Communities registry?

I believe Sue had intended this to match the form of the existing "Generic 
Transitive Experimental Use Extended Community Sub-Types" registry.  This 
includes sub-type value and name as fields with reference to the document and 
date.  Is that right, Sue?


> 
> - This is likely for Jeff.  I noticed now that the two new registrations for 
> Part 2 
> Sub-Types and Part 3 Sub-Types have different names in the IC section:
> 
> /snip/
> IANA is requested to create the "Generic Transitive Experimental Use
> Extended Community Part 2 Sub-Types" registry.  It should be seeded
>   with the following Sub-Type:
> 
>   0x08 - Flow spec redirect IPv4 format.
> 
>   IANA is requested to create the "Generic Transitive Experimental Use
>   Extended Community Part 3 Sub-Types" registry.  It should be seeded
>   with the following Sub-Type:
> 
>   0x08 - Flow spec redirect AS-4byte format.
> /snip/

I think the text was unclear.  The intention is to create two new registries in 
the form of the "Generic Transitive Experimental Use Extended Community 
Sub-Type".  The new registries are distinct in that the first octet value (the 
type) is 0x81 and 0x82 for Part 2 and Part 3 respectively.

Within each of those registries, there is a single entry registered,as per 
above.

Please see the attachment at the end of this mail for new proposed IANA 
Considerations text that I believe conveys this intent.  It contains all edits 
to date.

> 
> Please update the names to the one in Sue's comment if the names should 
> be consistent in both sub-regisries.
> 
> I'll let you work on the action items on your end.  If you have questions for 
> us,
> please contact us.
> 
> Thanks,
> ~pl
> 
> 
> On Fri Apr 10 00:33:05 2015, [email protected] wrote:
>> Pearl:
>> 
>> This is my understanding of what needs to change, and hopefully
>> answers all your questions.  I apologize that this draft got to you
>> without the new form.
>> 
>> I'll wait for an acknowledgement from Jeff that he is re-writing the
>> draft to cover these changes. Once Jeff has re-written the draft, this
>> draft will be 1 week WG LC to cover this change.  Please set your
>> timer to check on this in 2 week.
>> 
>> Answers to your questions:
>> O Action 1, Q1: the RFC should be [RFC5575, RFC-to-Be]
>> On Action 2, this is correct,  Please update the free space in the
>> registry to indicate only 0x83 to 0x8f are free.

Agreed.

>> 
>> On action 3, Q1:  Please create a new entry under the following web-
>> page
>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-extended-communities/bgp-extended-
>> communities.xhtml
>> 
>> Name the web page the following:
>> "Generic Transitive Experimental Use
>>  Extended Community Part 2 Sub-Types" registry.
>> 
>> Form: Sub-type Value, Name, Reference, Registration Type
>> 
>> Sub-Type Value  Name                     Reference  Registration-type
>> 0x00-0x07        TBD                         TBD
>> Standards action
>> 
>> 0x08               Flow Spec redirect
>>                       AS-4byte format      [This-RFC]   Standards
>> 
>> 0x09-0x40     TBD                            TBD             Standards
>> action
>> 0x41-0xff   Reserved

Sue, is there any reason to not use a similar registration range as the 0x80 
range?  I.e.:
0x00-0xbf - FCFS
0xc0-0xff - IETF review?


>> 
>> 
>> On action 3, Q4:
>> Please create a new entry under the following web-page
>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-extended-communities/bgp-extended-
>> communities.xhtml
>> 
>> Name the web page the following:
>> "Generic Transitive Experimental Use
>>  Extended Community Part 3 Sub-Types" registry.
>> 
>> Form: Sub-type Value, Name, Reference, Registration Type
>> 
>> Example:
>> Sub-Type Value  Name                   Reference  Registration-type
>> 0x00-0x07        TBD                         TBD
>> Standards action
>> 
>> 0x08               Flow Spec redirect
>>                       AS-4byte format      [This-RFC]   Standards
>> 
>> 0x09-0x40     TBD                            TBD             Standards
>> action
>> 0x41-0xff   Reserved
>> 
>> 
>> Sue Hares
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pearl Liang via RT [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 2:42 PM
>> Cc: [email protected];
>> [email protected]; [email protected]
>> Subject: [IANA #814082] Last Call: <draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-redirect-
>> rt-bis-03.txt> (Clarification of the Flowspec Redirect Extended
>> Community) to Proposed Standard
>> 
>> (BEGIN IANA LAST CALL COMMENTS)
>> 
>> IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:
>> 
>> IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-redirect-rt-bis-03.  Authors
>> should review the comments and/or questions below.  Please report any
>> inaccuracies and respond to any questions as soon as possible.
>> 
>> IANA has several questions about some of the actions requested in the
>> IANA Considerations section of this document.
>> 
>> We received the following comments/questions from the IANA's reviewer:
>> 
>> IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there are four
>> actions which IANA is required to complete.
>> 
>> First, in the Generic Transitive Experimental Use Extended Community
>> Sub-Types subregistry of the Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) Extended
>> Communities registry located at:
>> 
>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-extended-communities/
>> 
>> the existing registration for Type Value 0x08 will have its name
>> updated from:
>> 
>> Flow spec redirect
>> 
>> to:
>> 
>> Flow spec redirect AS-2byte format
>> 
>> and have the reference changed to [ RFC-to-be ]
>> 
>> QUESTION [1]:  This draft indicates that it updates RFC5575 according
>> to the header information in the draft.  Is the author intended to
>> remove the existing defining reference from the registry?
>> 
>> 
>> Second, in the BGP Transitive Extended Community Types subregistry
>> also in the Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) Extended Communities
>> registry located at:
>> 
>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-extended-communities/
>> 
>> two new registrations will be added as follows:
>> 
>> Type Value: 0x81
>> Name: Generic Transitive Experimental Use Extended Community Part 2
>> (Sub-Types are defined in the "Generic Transitive Experimental
>> Extended Community Part 2 Sub-Types" Registry)
>> Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]
>> 
>> Type Value: 0x82
>> Name: Generic Transitive Experimental Use Extended Community Part 3
>> (Sub-Types are defined in the "Generic Transitive Experimental
>> Extended Community Part 3 Sub-Types" Registry)
>> Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]
>> 
>> Third, a new registry is to be created called the "Generic Transitive
>> Experimental Use Extended Community Part 2 Sub-Types" registry.
>> 
>> IANA QUESTION [1]  -> Where should this new registry be located? Is it
>> a néw registry on the IANA Matrix or is it a subregistry of an
>> existing registry? If it is a subregistry of an existing registry, in
>> which registry will it be contained?  In the same BGP Extended
>> Communities located at http://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-extended-
>> communities registry?
>> 
>> IANA QUESTION [2]  -> What rules should be used for maintenance of
>> this new registry? Please refer to RFC 5226 for guidance on how to
>> select and apply maintenance policy for a new registry.
>> 
>> QUESTION: [3] What is the range for this new Part 2 Sub-Types
>> registry?
>> 
>> QUESTION: [4] Is the author intended to use the same table format as
>> the existing sub-registry
>> "Generic Transitive Experimental Use Extended Community Sub-Types"
>> which has
>> the following columns: Sub-Type Value, Name, Reference, and
>> (Registration) Date?
>> 
>> IANA understands that there is a single initial registration in the
>> new registry as follows:
>> 
>> Type Value: 0x08
>> Name: Flow spec redirect IPv4 format
>> Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]
>> 
>> Fourth, a new registry is to be created called the "Generic Transitive
>> Experimental Use Extended Community Part 3 Sub-Types" registry.
>> 
>> IANA QUESTION [1] -> Where should this new registry be located? Is it
>> a néw registry on the IANA Matrix or is it a subregistry of an
>> existing registry? If it is a subregistry of an existing registry, in
>> which registry will it be contained?
>> 
>> IANA QUESTION [2] -> What rules should be used for maintenance of this
>> new registry? Please refer to RFC 5226 for guidance on how to select
>> and apply maintenance policy for a new registry.
>> 
>> QUESTION: [3] What is the range for this new Part 3 Sub-Types
>> registry?
>> 
>> QUESTION: [4] Is the author intended to use the same table format as
>> the existing sub-registry
>> "Generic Transitive Experimental Use Extended Community Sub-Types"
>> which has
>> the following columns: Sub-Type Value, Name, Reference, and
>> (Registration) Date?
>> 
>> IANA understands that there is a single initial registration in the
>> new registry as follows:
>> 
>> Type Value: 0x08
>> Name: FFlow spec redirect AS-4byte format
>> Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]
>> 
>> IANA understands that these four actions are the only ones required to
>> be completed upon approval of this document.
>> 
>> Note:  The actions requested in this document will not be completed
>> until the document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This
>> message is only to confirm what actions will be performed.
>> 
>> Please note that IANA cannot reserve specific values. However, early
>> allocation is available for some types of registrations. For more
>> information, please see RFC 7120.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Pearl Liang
>> ICANN
>> 
>> (END IANA LAST CALL COMMENTS)
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed Mar 18 20:33:49 2015, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> The IESG has received a request from the Inter-Domain Routing WG
>>> (idr)
>>> to
>>> consider the following document:
>>> - 'Clarification of the Flowspec Redirect Extended Community'
>>>  <draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-redirect-rt-bis-03.txt> as Proposed
>>> Standard
>>> 
>>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
>>> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to
>>> the
>>> [email protected] mailing lists by 2015-04-08. Exceptionally, comments
>>> may
>>> be
>>> sent to [email protected] instead. In either case, please retain the
>>> beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
>>> 
>>> Abstract
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This document clarifies the formatting of the the BGP Flowspec
>>> Redirect Extended Community, originally documented in RFC 5575
>>> (Dissemination of Flow Specification Rules).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The file can be obtained via
>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-redirect-rt-
>>> bis/
>>> 
>>> IESG discussion can be tracked via
>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-redirect-rt-
>>> bis/ballot/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
> 
> 





Internet Engineering Task Force                             J. Haas, Ed.
Internet-Draft                                          Juniper Networks
Updates: 5575 (if approved)                               April 10, 2015
Intended status: Standards Track
Expires: October 12, 2015


       Clarification of the Flowspec Redirect Extended Community
               draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-redirect-rt-bis-04

Abstract

   This document updates RFC 5575 (Dissemination of Flow Specification
   Rules) to clarify the formatting of the the BGP Flowspec Redirect
   Extended Community.

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Table of Contents

   1.  Introduction  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   2
   2.  IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
     2.1.  Update to BGP Generic Transitive Experimental  Use
           Extended Community Sub-Types  . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
     2.2.  Generic Transitive Experimental Extended Community Part 2
           Sub-Types . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   5
     2.3.  Generic Transitive Experimental Extended Community Part 3
           Sub-Types . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   5
   3.  Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   6
   4.  Acknowledgements  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   6
   5.  Normative References  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   6
   Author's Address  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   7

1.  Introduction

   Dissemination of Flow Specification Rules [RFC5575], commonly known
   as BGP Flowspec, provided for a BGP Extended Community [RFC4360] that
   served to redirect traffic to a VRF routing instance that matched the
   flow specification NLRI.  In that RFC, the Redirect Extended
   Community was documented as follows:





























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   : +--------+--------------------+--------------------------+
   : | type   | extended community | encoding                 |
   : +--------+--------------------+--------------------------+
   : | 0x8008 | redirect           | 6-byte Route Target      |
   : +--------+--------------------+--------------------------+
   :
   : [...]
   :
   : Redirect:  The redirect extended community allows the traffic to be
   : redirected to a VRF routing instance that lists the specified
   : route-target in its import policy.  If several local instances
   : match this criteria, the choice between them is a local matter
   : (for example, the instance with the lowest Route Distinguisher
   : value can be elected).  This extended community uses the same
   : encoding as the Route Target extended community [RFC4360].
   : [...]
   :
   : 11. IANA Considerations
   : [...]
   :
   : The following traffic filtering flow specification rules have been
   : allocated by IANA from the "BGP Extended Communities Type -
   : Experimental Use" registry as follows:
   : [...]
   :
   : 0x8008 - Flow spec redirect

   The IANA registry of BGP Extended Communities clearly identifies
   communities of specific formats.  For example, "Two-octet AS Specific
   Extended Community" [RFC4360], "Four-octet AS Specific Extended
   Community" [RFC5668] and "IPv4 Address Specific Extended Community"
   [RFC4360].  Route Targets [RFC4360] identify this format in the high-
   order (Type) octet of the Extended Community and set the value of the
   low-order (Sub-Type) octet to 0x02.  The Value field of the Route
   Target Extended Community is intended to be interpreted in the
   context of its format.

   Since the Redirect Extended Community only registered a single code-
   point in the IANA BGP Extended Community registry, a common
   interpretation of the redirect extended community's "6-byte route
   target" has been to look, at a receiving router, for a route target
   value that matches the route target value in the received redirect
   extended community, and import the advertised route to the
   corresponding VRF instance subject to the rules defined in [RFC5575].
   However, because the route target format in the redirect extended
   community is not clearly defined, the wrong match may occur.





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   This "value wildcard" matching behavior, which does not take into
   account the format of the route target defined for a local VRF and
   may result in the wrong matching decision, does not match deployed
   implementations of BGP Flowspec.  Deployed implementations of BGP
   Flowspec solve this problem by defining different redirect extended
   communities that are specific to the format of the route target
   value.  This document defines the following redirect extended
   communities:

   +--------+--------------------+-------------------------------------+
   | type   | extended community | encoding                            |
   +--------+--------------------+-------------------------------------+
   | 0x8008 | redirect AS-2byte  | 2-octet AS, 4-octet Value           |
   | 0x8108 | redirect IPv4      | 4-octet IPv4 Address, 2-octet Value |
   | 0x8208 | redirect AS-4byte  | 4-octet AS, 2-octet Value           |
   +--------+--------------------+-------------------------------------+

   It should be noted that the low-order nybble of the Redirect's Type
   field corresponds to the Route Target Extended Community format field
   (Type).  (See [RFC4360], Secs. 3.1, 3.2, and 4 plus [RFC5668], Sec.
   2.)  The low order octet (Sub-Type) of the Redirect Extended
   Community remains 0x08, contrasted to 0x02 for Route Targets.

   The IANA Registries for BGP Extended Communities [RFC7153] document
   was written to update the previously-mentioned IANA registries to
   better document BGP Extended Community formats.  The IANA
   Considerations section below further amends those registry updates in
   order to properly document the Flowspec redirect communities.

2.  IANA Considerations

2.1.  Update to BGP Generic Transitive Experimental Use Extended
      Community Sub-Types

   IANA is requested to update the "BGP Generic Transitive Experimental
   Use Extended Community Sub-Types" registry as follows:

   0x08 - Flow spec redirect AS-2byte format. [RFC5575, RFC-to-be]

   (Note to RFC Editor - replace RFC-to-be with this RFC number.)

   IANA is requested to update the "BGP Transitive Extended Community
   Types" registry as follows:








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      0x81 - Generic Transitive Experimental Use Extended Community
             Part 2 (Sub-Types are defined in the "Generic Transitive
             Experimental Extended Community Part 2 Sub-Types" Registry)
      0x82 - Generic Transitive Experimental Use Extended Community
             Part 3 (Sub-Types are defined in the "Generic Transitive
             Experimental Extended Community Part 3 Sub-Types" Registry)

2.2.  Generic Transitive Experimental Extended Community Part 2 Sub-
      Types

   IANA is requested to create the "Generic Transitive Experimental Use
   Extended Community Part 2 Sub-Types" registry.  This registry should
   be created under http://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-extended-
   communities/bgp-extended-communities.xhtml.  It will contain the
   following note:

      This registry contains values of the second octet (the "Sub-Type"
      field) of an extended community when the value of the first octet
      (the "Type" field) is 0x81.

   Registry Name: Generic Transitive Experimental Use Extended Community
   Part 2 Sub-Types

       RANGE              REGISTRATION PROCEDURE           REFERENCE

       0x00-0xBF          First Come First Served
       0xC0-0xFF          IETF Review

       SUB-TYPE VALUE     NAME
       0x00-0x07          Unassigned
       0x08               Flow spec redirect IPv4 format.  [RFC-to-be]
       0x09-0xff          Unassigned

   (Note to RFC Editor - replace RFC-to-be with this RFC number.)

2.3.  Generic Transitive Experimental Extended Community Part 3 Sub-
      Types

   IANA is requested to create the "Generic Transitive Experimental Use
   Extended Community Part 3 Sub-Types" registry.  This registry should
   be created under http://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-extended-
   communities/bgp-extended-communities.xhtml.  It will contain the
   following note:

      This registry contains values of the second octet (the "Sub-Type"
      field) of an extended community when the value of the first octet
      (the "Type" field) is 0x82.




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   Registry Name: Generic Transitive Experimental Use Extended Community
   Part 2 Sub-Types

     RANGE              REGISTRATION PROCEDURE               REFERENCE

     0x00-0xBF          First Come First Served
     0xC0-0xFF          IETF Review

     SUB-TYPE VALUE     NAME
     0x00-0x07          Unassigned
     0x08               Flow spec redirect AS-4byte format.  [RFC-to-be]
     0x09-0xff          Unassigned

   (Note to RFC Editor - replace RFC-to-be with this RFC number.)

3.  Security Considerations

   This document introduces no additional security considerations than
   those already covered in [RFC5575].  It should be noted that if the
   wildcard behavior were actually implemented, this ambiguity may lead
   to the installation of Flowspec rules in an incorrect VRF and may
   lead to traffic to be incorrectly delivered.

4.  Acknowledgements

   The contents of this document was raised as part of implementation
   discussions of BGP Flowspec with the following individuals:

      Andrew Karch (Cisco)

      Robert Raszuk

      Adam Simpson (Alcatel-Lucent)

      Matthieu Texier (Arbor Networks)

      Kaliraj Vairavakkalai (Juniper)

5.  Normative References

   [RFC4360]  Sangli, S., Tappan, D., and Y. Rekhter, "BGP Extended
              Communities Attribute", RFC 4360, February 2006.

   [RFC5575]  Marques, P., Sheth, N., Raszuk, R., Greene, B., Mauch, J.,
              and D. McPherson, "Dissemination of Flow Specification
              Rules", RFC 5575, August 2009.





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   [RFC5668]  Rekhter, Y., Sangli, S., and D. Tappan, "4-Octet AS
              Specific BGP Extended Community", RFC 5668, October 2009.

   [RFC7153]  Rosen, E. and Y. Rekhter, "IANA Registries for BGP
              Extended Communities", RFC 7153, March 2014.

Author's Address

   Jeffrey Haas (editor)
   Juniper Networks

   Email: [email protected]







































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