Hi Deborah,

> To help the reader, I'd say section 6's and section 7's headers should be 
> more clearly labelled "An Abstraction Solution for Optical Domains and 
> Networks" and for section 7 "Abstraction in the User-to-Network Interface". 
> And these titles will align better with Section 8 "Abstraction in L3VPN...".
> 
> Would that help?

Yes. Basically it needs to be clear that the architecture can be 100%
implemented using current specifications, and that the possible extensions
are not required for this (and are therefore not really part of the core of
the BCP).

Regards
   Brian

On 05/05/2016 11:02, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote:
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Yes, much thanks for your careful read. I can understand your confusion on 
> our chosen track as we (authors, chairs, myself) went back and forth on it 
> though we debated if it should be standards track or BCP (or Applicability 
> Statement).
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/YEv-68nB0LwBCOa3PcJR970pYhg
> 
> Looking at your review, your question on why this is a BCP was based on a 
> sentence in section 5 which says that existing protocols <to be immediately 
> suitable> would need "some protocol extensions". Whereas in section 5.4, it 
> says this document will show how the existing protocols can be combined to 
> provide a solution with only minor modifications.
> 
> So putting these sentences together one concludes the solution requires minor 
> modifications to the protocols. But the solution described in this document 
> doesn't require any modifications to the protocols. The solution is based on 
> abstracting information - section 6 uses abstraction combined with the 3rd 
> model for GMPLS networks, same for section 7 and section 8.
> 
> The document was first proposed as standards track because it is a solution. 
> After discussion, it was agreed it really is a BCP as it is describing the 
> agreed best current approach for solving this problem, e.g. in section 6, it 
> is using RFC6827's (RFC6827 is a Proposed Standard) exchange of information 
> between different ASON architecture levels (not protocol exchanges). So it is 
> either standards track or a BCP as it is the WG's best solution for this 
> problem at this time.
> 
> To help the reader, I'd say section 6's and section 7's headers should be 
> more clearly labelled "An Abstraction Solution for Optical Domains and 
> Networks" and for section 7 "Abstraction in the User-to-Network Interface". 
> And these titles will align better with Section 8 "Abstraction in L3VPN...".
> 
> Would that help?
> 
> Deborah
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 4:06 PM
> To: [email protected]; 
> [email protected]; 'General Area 
> Review Team' <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Gen-ART Last Call review of 
> draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange-05
> 
> Hi Adrian,
> 
> Just a few comebacks in line:
> 
> On 04/05/2016 23:05, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> Thanks for the time.
> 
> Actually I read it with some interest, as I was wondering whether it
> also provides a use case for the Anima WG. It probably could.
> 
>>
>>> Major issues:
>>> -------------
>>>
>>>> 5.  Building on Existing Protocols
>>>
>>> I find it hard to read the introduction to this section and understand
>>> why the draft is proposed for BCP rather than Informational. 
>>
>> I will punt this question direct to the responsible AD since the authors 
>> brought the document forward as Standards Track and were "persuaded" by the 
>> WG chairs and responsible AD that it was a BCP as written. 
>>
>> The only hint I will offer is that the authors would be grumpy about 
>> changing the content of the document to fit the publication track. Let's 
>> choose the track to fit the document :-)
> 
> Understood. The IETF has never been very comfortable at accommodating 
> architecture
> documents. But I don't really think the text would need changing, except for 
> 3 words
> in the Abstract. The document stands on its own merits. Anyway, that's an 
> IESG question.
> 
>> <snip>
>>
>> [except to note that the presence of normative references has nothing to do 
>> with whether a document is itself normative!]
>>  <snip>

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