Ok, since answer not obvious starting thread on Kitten. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jari Arkko [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 1:30 AM
To: Benjamin Kaduk <[email protected]>
Cc: Paul Miller (NT) <[email protected]>; Michiko Short 
<[email protected]>; IETF Gen-ART <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Review of draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-freshness-07

Many thanks for your review, Russ, and for thinking about this space and what 
issues there might be.

I too am concerned about the issue that Russ Housley raised: bad practices in 
creating the freshness tokens creates a security issue. If this cannot be 
handled in the way that Russ initially suggested (setting a minimum number of 
bits) then a proper discussion of the issue and recommendations to avoid the 
problems need to be included in the security considerations section.

I fully recognise the point from the authors that different styles of creating 
the tokens result in different implications, and that setting a mere minimum 
number of bits may not be appropriate.

Jari

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