I think the overall medium-term results so far has been one person at most per course staying on Wikipedia after the course, and more frequently nobody at all. I think this not necessarily a result of bad experiences or coercion, but rather that curiosity is not necessarily going to equal participation. Myself, I've looked at many things on the web (& elsewhere) (&, for that matter, various WMF projects & types of work on Wikipedia) & participated long enough to understand them , but decided not to continue--not from dissatisfaction, but just because other things interested me more.
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson <l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Sarah's conclusions are in sync with what I've heard from the team at the > Wikimedia Foundation. But, and that's a crucial point, the goal with the > collaborations with the universites is not to make everyone a Wikipedian. I > know, that may be strange or counter-intuitive. It certainly was for me. > Instead, the goal is to increase the quality of those articles that they > university courses are working on, and if some of those who edited during > the course stays on as Wikipedians, that's terrific, but it cannot be the > goal. I am sure that Frank Schulenburg, Rod Dunican, LiAnna Davis or the > other people in the (now) Global Education team can provide more insight > into their original thinking. Or Pete Forsythe, for that matter, who I know > is on this list. > > I know that is but one of the aspects of Sarah's email, but it's the one > aspect I know something about :-) > > Best wishes, > > Lennart > > Lennart Guldbrandsson, > Wikimedia Sverige http://wikimedia.se > Tfn: 031 - 12 50 48 Mobil: 070 - 207 80 05 Epost: > l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com Användarsida: > http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Hannibal Blogg: > http://mrchapel.wordpress.com/ > > ________________________________ > Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 10:30:10 -0400 > From: sarah.stie...@gmail.com > To: fredb...@fairpoint.net; gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Supporting Campus Ambassador programs [Fwd: Issue > of Copy-Pasting] > > I took some time last week and actually went through the "female" editors > (many of the students openly identify their real names and/or genders) > participating in class programs. > > 1) Most don't edit Wikipedia after the class is over - and this goes beyond > gender. I determined this by studying their user contributions and also > using a tool to examine contributions and gender for specific WikiProjects > (specifically WP:Public art which developed as a program with students > before the Campus Ambassador program existed) > 2) A nice amount of them generally get slaps on the hand for their lack of > understanding on "How Wikipedia Works" > > I'm not sure if this means that something in the system is broken (i.e. > we're not educating students and professors on how Wikipedia works write, > we're not providing ongoing outreach - which seems to be a problem in a lot > of areas of WP outreach...), that the students genuinely have no interest > (and that's fine, they are "forced" to do it, after all), or what.. > > Some of these problems involve image deletion (due to lack of understanding > on how fair use/copyright works in Wikipedia), article deletion, blocking of > accounts, or just plain calling people out on their talk pages. I didn't > gather all this information in a pile - I've looked at upwards of a thousand > female editors accounts over the past two weeks - but, it's there, if you > dig around a bit. > > -Sarah > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Fred Bauder <fredb...@fairpoint.net> wrote: > > Help is needed. > > Fred > > --------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- > Subject: Issue of Copy-Pasting > From: "Hisham" <his...@wikimedia.org> > Date: Fri, October 7, 2011 7:46 am > To: "Wikipedia Ambassadors India" > <wikipedia-ambassadors-in...@googlegroups.com> > wikipedia-online-ambassad...@googlegroups.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hi Team > > This problem is continuing and is fast approaching disaster proportions. > Please see these comments > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:India_Education_Program#Queries_from_the_Wikipedia_community> > and > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Ambassadors#Concerns_over_impact_on_article_quality> > > Please urgently do the following > > a) Constantly repeat to every student that copy-pasting is not acceptable > b) Monitor the work of your students - and make sure they edit in their > sandboxes before they go live (and only go live after you ok it.) > c) Please let's have the Campus & Online Ambassadors working closely with > each other to do point (b) and to track, monitor and correct the work of > your respective students. > > In the next few days and weeks, the problem is going to explode unless we > control it because many students' deadlines are approaching. > > Please treat this matter with the highest urgency. The very future of > our program is at stake. > > Many thanks. > > hisham > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > > > -- > GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia > Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art > and > Sarah Stierch Consulting > Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising. > ------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.sarahstierch.com/ > > _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > -- David Goodman DGG at the enWP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap