On Monday, 2 July 2012 at 06:24, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi Tom, hi @all
>  
> > Wikimedia have decided to allow the list to be created
>  
> since we are addressing not only one gender gap but, seemingly quite a few, 
> including those that come alonf
> the lines of what has come to be called sexual orientarion, I have a question 
> about the creation process of
> the new list. I recently heard elsewhere that
>  
> it was difficult to bring WF to "allow" the list to be created in the frame 
> of lists.wikimedia.org (http://lists.wikimedia.org)?
> how come?




You can see the discussion that led to the creation of the mailing list here:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37888

I disagreed rather strongly with the suggestion made that two of the proposed 
list administrators (Varnent and Fae) would have a "POV"*, but agreed to be a 
list admin instead.

Eventually, there was not really any "difficulty", just confusion and 
miscommunication. All's well that ends well.

I'm not sure I agree that LGBT is another gender gap. The point of the list 
isn't that it's dealing with a clear need to increase participation like 
gendergap is. It's based on two things: dealing with problematic editor 
interaction issues if and when they occur and trying to increase outreach to 
LGBT communities and organisations – sort of like GLAM: there are historical 
and cultural organisations Wikimedians can work with to counter systemic bias 
etc. (As with women's history, LGBT history is often written out of the 
literature, and thus out of Wikipedia.)

There's obviously some overlap given that gender, gender identity and sexual 
orientation are all bound together, but I wouldn't otherwise want to draw 
comparisons with what gendergap is doing and what the LGBT list is doing.

* To quote Lady Gaga: if I have a POV or a COI, I was born that way.

--  
Tom Morris
<http://tommorris.org/>



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