Hmm. I stopped editing the Dutch Wikipedia because it just wasn't any fun anymore. I would never say I experienced barriers to entry or that there were barriers to continued participation. It is more that there was a continuous vacuum of silence that made participation feel like I was on an island all of the time. I was never invited to the discussion table on any specific subject, and if I stumbled across one, once there, my replies to statements were never answered directly, but indirectly in replies to others. I was never addressed personally and asked for an opinion. That doesn't happen regularly on Commons or the English Wikipedia either, but I feel much less on an island in bth of those projects and much more a part of a community. Any contribution I made to an ongoing discussion on the Dutch Wikipedia just stopped the discussion altogether or was simply ignored. I vaguely remember a few deletion discussions where my objections were brushed off with ridiculous arguments - so ridiculous that I wouldn't know what to reply in all seriousness. Of course I can't back this up with diffs and it is just a feeling, but it's because of the feeling that I stopped contributing. I guess I also got tired of always linking to redlinks in my area of interest - there are just more people working in my area of interest on the English Wikipedia, so that I feel I can lean more on the work of others.
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Carol Moore dc <carolmoor...@verizon.net> wrote: > This point is so important I gave it its own subject line. Perhaps this > language can be worked into the statement of purpose of all the WMF Gender > gap projects... I also think Kerry should turn her whole excellent > statement into an essay for the WMF site and it should be linked from GGTF > main page. > > On 12/29/2014 4:07 PM, Kerry Raymond wrote: > > > > Does it matter? Believe me, a lot of people get really stuck at this point > and frame it as “well, if women don’t want to edit Wikipedia, does it > really matter? It’s their choice, isn’t it?” This is something that really > needs to get reframed. Yes, of course, many women don’t Wikipedia because > they simply aren’t interested in doing so (ditto many men). But there are > barriers to entry and barriers to continued participation by women who are > interested in doing so compared to men. Try to reframe it “are women > equally able to edit Wikipedia” or “are there barriers to women editing?”. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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