On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: > Whatever else "cis" is, it's not a scientific term. It's a buzzword that > sounds scientific because it derives from the Latin, but in fact it's a > coined term that is not used in science. >
What makes a term scientific other than that scientists use it? "Sociologists Kristen Schilt and Laurel Westbrook define *cisgender* as a label for "individuals who have a match between the gender they were assigned at birth, their bodies, and their personal identity" as a complement to *transgender <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender>*.[2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender#cite_note-2>" *"Sociology* is the academic study of social behaviour <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_behaviour>, its origins, development, organisation, and institutions <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institution>. [1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociology#cite_note-1> It is a social science <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_science> that uses various methods of empirical investigation <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_method>[2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociology#cite_note-Classical_Statements8-2> and critical analysis <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_analysis>[3] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociology#cite_note-Classical_Statements4-3> to develop a body of knowledge about social order, social disorder and social change." > > Risker/Anne > > > > On 16 January 2015 at 16:33, Sarah Stierch <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I'm not cis..and it was a term I only learned about a few years ago... >> but, here's the Wikipedia article: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender >> >> It means that someone identifies as the gender they were born with. So, >> if you're born with female parts and you identify as a woman and it's >> totally inline with who you are as said woman... you're cis. >> >> I think Lightbreather used it in the correct way. I'm not sure why it's >> an insult. It's more like a scientific term, it seems, then a cultural >> movement. >> >> But, I've learned by now I'm rather an epic fail at trying to use all of >> these phrases properly. I blame being from Indiana. ;-) >> >> Sarah >> >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Katherine Casey < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> *"Also note many women consider "cis" to be an insult that eliminates >>> womens experience as women, who've been identified as and identify as women >>> from birth, and are happy and even proud to be women."* >>> ...wha? >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Carol Moore dc < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 1/16/2015 2:20 PM, LB wrote: >>>> >>>> Based on a discussion at the WikiProject Women IdeaLab talk page >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IdeaLab/WikiProject_Women#best_practice.3F>, >>>> I have started a test Kaffeeklatsch >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lightbreather/Kaffeeklatsch> area >>>> for women (cis, lesbian, transgender) only. Participation of interested >>>> women would be welcome. >>>> >>>> Lightbreather >>>> >>>> Since "cis" means non-trans male or female, where's the woman only? >>>> >>>> Also note many women consider "cis" to be an insult that eliminates >>>> womens experience as women, who've been identified as and identify as women >>>> from birth, and are happy and even proud to be women. >>>> >>>> CM >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sarah Stierch >> >> ----- >> >> Diverse and engaging consulting for your organization. >> >> www.sarahstierch.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > -- Heather Walls Communications Design Manager I Wikimedia Foundation 149 New Montgomery Street I San Francisco, CA 94105 [email protected]
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