It would be very easy for us to host a two hour session in London on a weekday 
evening at the UK offices. I am fairly sure we could get a bunch of admins and 
others to attend, aside from some of the London regulars who have agreed in 
principle, a geonotice would likely attract more.

I have no problem arranging the room, putting up a geonotice and being an 
attendee. However I would need a volunteer to run the session. That isn't just 
because I'm the wrong gender to run such an event, but at the moment I don't 
know what changes in behaviour you would be hoping to train people into. 

Regards

Jonathan Cardy


> On 29 Dec 2014, at 18:28, Chris Keating <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anne, Kerry and Christina - and everyone else,
> 
> So the Wikimedia Conference programme committee appears keen to do something 
> useful in terms of creating space for gender - gap work. So I wondered if you 
> had any further thoughts about what *might* work at the Wikimedia Conference.
> 
> As Anne points out it is an audience of people from Wikimedia movement 
> organisations - board members, executive directors (where they exist), and a 
> smaller number of other staff. Compared to other Wikimedia events there is 
> probably a greater language and geographical diversity. There is also a 
> reasonable degree of awareness of the issue - better than one would find if 
> you put english Wikipedia administrators in a room.
> 
> The main focus for the conference is going to be on helping Wikimedia 
> organisations grow, learn and improve - we are looking to give people 
> practical outcomes, and are avoiding theoretical discussion as far as 
> possible.
> 
> Thoughts on what we can put in the programme on this issue are very welcome 
> :) (I'll pass everything on to the programme committee, though I suspect I'm 
> not the only member of it subscribed to this list).
> 
> Thanks and happy new year!
> 
> Chris
> 
>> On 19 Dec 2014 07:21, "Kerry Raymond" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Can I suggest that the Wikimedia Conference do a train-the-trainer session 
>> with a view to the chapters running sessions locally in addition to the 
>> Wikimania session. Not many people get to go to Wikimania so the chapters 
>> approach would be more scalable.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Kerry
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Risker
>> Sent: Friday, 19 December 2014 2:16 AM
>> To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the 
>> participationof women within Wikimedia projects.
>> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Diversity training for functionaries
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> While it might be suitable as a "pilot" at the Wikimedia Conference (I 
>> promise not to harp on the name here), it's a by-invitation conference 
>> focused on chapter/affiliate executives, many of whom have very limited 
>> on-wiki presence.  I'm not persuaded that they're the target audience. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> In fact, I'd suggest this would probably be best suited to a full-day 
>> session targeted at active Wikimedia project administrators and those with 
>> higher level permissions (think: oversighters, who frequently deal with 
>> requests from women who feel harassed because of gender; checkusers tracking 
>> down sockpuppets of harassers, and stewards, who can act in either role on 
>> projects that don't have their own CU/OS).  There is not much overlap 
>> between these active on-wiki leaders and the leaders of chapters/affiliates. 
>>  Strikes me that this would be more ideal for Wikimania, perhaps as a pre-WM 
>> session if that can be arranged.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Risker/anne
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 18 December 2014 at 11:04, Chris Keating <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Christina - this sounds very interesting - would you be happy for me to 
>> propose it as a possible topic in the Wikimedia Conference, for which I'm on 
>> the programme committee?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Christina Burger 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Please allow me to briefly introduce myself before coming to the
>> point: I am Christina Dinar and I work at Wikimedia Deutschland for
>> 1,5 years now. Originally, I was employed to take care of community
>> projects that address newbies and enhance the diversity in Wikipedia
>> as well other Wikimedia projects. I came with the professional
>> background of doing workshops with young adults in political
>> education, doing diversity trainings in order to address some of their
>> existing social and violent behavioral problems with each other.
>> Somehow it never got to that moment that I could actually offer this
>> knowledge and experience to the German Wikipedia Community–my
>> professional focus here shifted and I started to work in other fields.
>> 
>> Coming from this background, I could definitely offer a diversity
>> workshop at Wikimania, for functionaries as well as on the level of
>> introduction as a train-the-trainer. We even have developed diversity
>> guidelines (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Charting_diversity), that
>> theoretically frame the approach on diversity to the specifics of the
>> Wikimedia world. If I get some positive feedback on offering this
>> workshop at Wikimania–ideally not alone but with another interested
>> person–I am not sure what the best way to proceed is: Wait for the
>> submission process, or get in touch with the organizers to ask for a
>> room and time for this special workshop (as others did in the past)?
>> 
>> I had drafted a proposal for our diversity conference back in 2013
>> that we could use and build upon - (it was very general at that time, today 
>> I would address more the specfics of WM-movements..):
>> 
>> Diversity? Deal with it! – Diversity as a concept has long development
>> in management and especially in human ressource management in order to
>> practically deal with diversity of people coming and working together
>> from different backrounds and levels of knowledge. This 45-min lasting
>> workshop you will actively engage in situations what actually to do
>> and how possibly to act when divers and different opinions, people and
>> backgrounds and communication cultures come together. Different
>> strategies will be developed within the group participants leaving
>> them with set of tools and strategies how to deal with diversity in
>> real life and the online world.
>> 
>> I am very much looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
>> 
>> Warmly,
>> Christina
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 2014-12-14 23:06 GMT+01:00 Jim Hayes <[email protected]>:
>> 
>> yes, training could work at wikimania
>> 
>> the education foundation and eval. folks had seminars during hackathon,
>> and a track at London
>> https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme
>> 
>> what would a required list of HR, managment seminars look like?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Chris Keating <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've added myself to the list of interested people :)
>> 
>> Thinking out loud, would that kind of thing work in person at the Wikimedia 
>> Conference and/or Wikimania?
>> 
>> On 12 Dec 2014 19:33, "Siko Bouterse" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Along similar lines, this pilot training has been suggested for admins:
>> 
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Gender-gap_admin_training
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> And The Ada Initiative said they were interested in providing training for 
>> such a pilot. WMF grantmakers like myself would be pleased to see something 
>> like this develop into a proposal, if folks felt it was worth trying.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It might make sense to pilot at the admin level before focusing on 
>> functionaries like stewards, because admins have more day-to-day 
>> interactions with individual editors (and thus more opportunities to 
>> facilitate an on-wiki environment that supports diversity).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Reguyla <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I think this might be a good idea but it would be pretty hard to implement 
>> and I think, unnecessary. Most of the functionaries got to where they are 
>> because they have a calm demeanor and generally are fair in how they treat 
>> others. Additionally, its not usually the functionaries who are the problem. 
>> So without requiring the editors to perform the diversity training, I'm not 
>> sure how much it would help.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Chris Keating <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Don't know if this has been floated before - apologies if so - but:
>> 
>> Part of the problem we have is the sheer depth of ignorance among otherwise 
>> well-intentioned community members.
>> 
>> This depth of ignorance is naturally shared by the people who play 
>> leadership roles in the community. So we end up with stewards, arbitrators 
>> and bureaucrats who potentially end up reinforcing the gender gap problem 
>> because they just have no clue how the structure they maintain can sometimes 
>> be a tool to exclude people.
>> 
>> How about offering some form of diversity training to functionaries to help 
>> broaden perspectives and raise understanding? Obviously, from the point of 
>> view of supporting them to do their difficult and fairly thankless roles 
>> better, rather than beating them with diversity sticks.
>> 
>> It could happen (indeed, WMF could make it happen with some volunteer 
>> input); could it help?
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
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