nice work this is worth making into do list and adding to women in red tasks
it might be worth scraping nytimes and working back, i.e. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/obituaries/notable-deaths-2014.html this is a nice task for newbies, like the 1lib1ref for everyone, just sprinkling nytimes notability dust throughout. cheers. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:51 AM, Neotarf <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, a bot-driven list would be quite helpful, if for no other reason than > being standardized and therefore race- and gender-blind as far as selection > criteria. I have just finished compiling a list from the NYT article, and > it was very labor intensive just to generate the list, before even starting > to look for red links. > > Note, obituary notices from international newspapers are "articles", not > advertisements; for further info see the NYT article on how to tell their > classified pages from an article. > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/25/business/media/25asktheeditors.html > Also see the WP article on "obituary". > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obituary > > The *articles* referenced in the above "lists of notable deaths in 2015" > are: > > **Los Angeles Times*, "Notable deaths of 2015" > http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-2015-notable-deaths-gallery-photogallery.html > > **The Washington Post*, "Notable deaths of 2015 and 2016" > https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/notable-deaths-of-2015/2015/01/06/8a2c7536-92b6-11e4-ba53-a477d66580ed_gallery.html > > *The Wall Street Journal, "2015 Year in Review: Notable Deaths" > http://www.wsj.com/articles/2015-year-in-review-notable-deaths-1450647522 > > *The Telegraph, "Culture stars who died in 2015" > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/culture-stars-who-died-in-2015/ > > **BBC*, "Notable UK deaths of 2015" > http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35060400 > **New York Times,* "Notable Deaths of 2015" > http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/obituaries/notable-deaths-2015.html?_r=1 > > Out of the 200-odd notable deaths in the NYT article, the following women > are red links: > * December*: Mariuccia Mandelli, Peggy Say; *November*; Janet Wolfe; > *October*: Olga Hirshhorn; *August*:Blondell Cummings, *April*: Evelyn > Starks Hardy, Anne-Claude Leflaive. > > In addition, there are problems noted--several of the articles are stubs, > one appears to be at the wrong name, one shares an article with her > husband, and others have tags for reasons that are not immediately > apparent. One could wish the people who tag these things would actually > fix them if they see a problem, or at least leave a note on the talk page. > I noted several of the articles did not have photos, but did not make a > note of that. Is there some checklist? It would seem if they are now > deceased it would be possible to find a fair-use image. Complete notes and > links, as well as links to existing articles are at: > https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2016/01/25/lists-of-notable-deaths-of-2015/ > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:59 PM, J Hayes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> i should not imagine a fear of paid notices, should prevent a systematic >> inclusion of NYTimes obits, which are assumed notable. >> especially with the reference generator doing all the formatting. >> >> no one is doing this; the article mentions 25% female among these. i.e. >> we don't include reliable sources even to the extent they present less of a >> gap than we do. >> >> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >At least in the USA, we have to be cautious about "what is an >>> obituary." Newspapers also run "death notices" which (both in print and >>> >online) look much like obituaries, but are actually paid advertisements. >>> I'm not even certain that the terminology ("obituary"=editorial, >"death >>> notice"=paid ad) is consistent across news outlets, I'm just reflecting >>> what I learned from the specific papers I dealt with after >my dad died. >>> >>> Writing as someone who once got paid to write newspaper obits, “paids” >>> are, in print, always in [[agate type]], like sports boxscores; obits look >>> like any other story in the same newspaper. >>> >>> However, textwise, the distinction may be blurring as newspapers cut >>> back on expenses (such as the newbies and interns who cut their >>> journalistic teeth writing obits. Just earlier this week, a young coworker >>> of my wife’s died rather suddenly; when I saw his obit in our local paper I >>> figured they had just printed the text the funeral home sent along since it >>> read like a paid, with all sorts of flowery, non-NPOV language that we >>> never included in obits back in the mid-‘90s regardless of what the funeral >>> home said in the fax, no mention whatsoever of the cause of death, and >>> mentions of a rather wide scope of survivors (the main reason for paids, as >>> families of the decedents usually want to mention relatives outside the >>> scope of the immediate family that newspapers limit their obits to for >>> space if nothing else). >>> >>> Daniel Case >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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