I'm not sure that "badass" is a bad thing to call someone nowadays. It has been appropriated by feminists, according to the Atlantic. [1]
They describe it as "a term of acclamation and aspiration, both for women and for a culture that is finally giving them their due. It’s a recognition that women can 'radiate confidence in everything they do' just as readily as men can." Sarah [1] http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/11/how-badass-became-feminist/417096/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: > Unless my vision has completely eroded, I do not see the word "cunt" > anywhere in that article, Ryan. Nobody on this list has ever said that > calling someone a cunt is a good thing. What I do not understand is why > anyone on this list would think that calling someone a "badass" is a good > thing. > > Risker > > > On 21 February 2016 at 18:19, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >"Badass" isn't a compliment. >> >> And "cunt" is a friendly term of camaraderie in British English. >> Apparently I just don't have a good command of the English language. >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 4:39 PM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I feel very sad that you fellows don't see the problem in using this >>> kind of language to describe women. "Badass" isn't a compliment. After the >>> first two descriptions, I was fully expecting to see "brilliant >>> motherf***er" to describe the third one. I'm surprised it wasn't used, in >>> fact. >>> >>> The subjects of our articles deserve to be treated much better than >>> this. >>> >>> Further, I'm incredibly disappointed that this got published in The >>> Signpost. On Emily's own page...well, okay. But instead of drawing >>> attention to the women who are the subjects of the articles, almost all of >>> the discussion is about the language used to describe them....and pointing >>> out that several of them already had articles about them that were >>> improved, rather than that they'd not been written about at all. >>> >>> All in all, it impressed me as an island of lovely flowers in a garden >>> with a winter's worth of St. Bernard droppings. >>> >>> Risker >>> >>> On 21 February 2016 at 17:13, Pete Forsyth <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 Ryan. >>>> >>>> This was one article, and no Wikipedians, readers, or article subjects >>>> were injured as a result of its publication. I don't really have a strong >>>> opinion one way or the other about whether using language in this way is >>>> OK. But the main lesson to me is how much the English Wikipedia community >>>> has come to value the Signpost as an institution. It's hard to imagine such >>>> any Signpost column inspiring so much passion, say, five years ago. Above >>>> all, I think this constitutes a strong endorsement of the general value of >>>> the Signpost. >>>> >>>> -Pete >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The depressing thing to me is that the English Wikipedia community >>>>> takes all of 10 minutes to work itself into a frenzy about the use of >>>>> profanity in a positive, non-personal way, but if an editor on Wikipedia >>>>> calls a female editor a cunt, no one dares to bat an eye. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is it a double standard? If that page hadn't been written by >>>>>> Keilana, would it have been published as is? >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps you're right, it *is* a double standard. Just not quite the >>>>>> one some think it would be. >>>>>> >>>>>> Risker/Anne >>>>>> >>>>>> On 21 February 2016 at 08:31, Neotarf <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Op-ed about systemic bias and articles created. Interesting double >>>>>>> standard about profanity in the comment section. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-02-17/Op-ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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