Emily, could you elaborate on your reason for thinking sexist Wikipedians were a significant factor here? Having reviewed and engaged with several of the articles and AfDs under discussion, I don't see any reason for that. In my view, there were some unnecessarily unpleasant comments, but nothing that struck me as sexist. But if I've missed something, I'd like to know. -Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]]
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Emily Monroe <emilymonro...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do you think the draft templates were the issue? Maybe I'm overly cynical, > perhaps they advertised the fact that they were created by arts and > feminism to sexist wikipedians. > > From, > Emily > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Pharos <pharosofalexand...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> This is actually the 3rd year of Art+Feminism, and the organizers' focus >> has consistently been on improving existing articles (particularly stubs!), >> as most appropriate to new Wikipedians, particularly at this scale of >> effort. >> >> Of course some new Wikipedians are eager to start new articles, and we >> accommodate that as best we can, both with personal assistance from >> long-term Wikipedians where possible, and also technical innovations like >> the draft template system we premiered this year. >> >> Thanks, >> Pharos >> >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I very much agree, Emily. I wonder if this time, perhaps all the >>> (wonderful and timely) media coverage of Emily Temple Wood's efforts to >>> create new articles may have influenced organizers and/or participants? >>> Perhaps it created a bit of a consensus, conscious or unconscious, that >>> *creating new articles* was the main desired result. >>> >>> If so, this might be a bit of a one-time anomaly, may not indicate a >>> need for major changes. >>> >>> -Pete >>> [[User:Peteforsyth]] >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Emily Monroe <emilymonro...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In general, creating articles are very difficult. The learning curve is >>>> steep, and it may be best to have people expand/improve articles instead of >>>> creating them. >>>> >>>> From, >>>> Emily >>>> On Mar 12, 2016 11:48 AM, "Ryan Kaldari" <rkald...@wikimedia.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I find it disappointing that so many of the Art and Feminism >>>>> editathons end up focusing almost exclusively on creating new articles for >>>>> artists at the hosting institution. Not only does this lead to a high >>>>> percentage of the articles being deleted, but it's a waste of a huge >>>>> opportunity to create and expand articles about artists and artworks with >>>>> unquestionable notability and high encyclopedic value. >>>>> >>>>> I have no doubt that many of the Art and Feminism articles that are >>>>> nominated for deletion are nominated due to gender bias (as some of them >>>>> seem rather trivial to find sources for and improve), but many of them are >>>>> also legitimately on the notability borderline. At all of the Art and >>>>> Feminism editathons that I've volunteered at, I've discouraged people from >>>>> creating articles about people they knew personally, and encouraged them >>>>> to >>>>> use the lists at >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism/Tasks >>>>> instead. If you are helping to run an Art and Feminism editathon, I would >>>>> also suggest doing this, as it provides more value for Wikipedia and leads >>>>> to fewer deletions. I would also like to encourage everyone to edit the >>>>> lists at >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism/Tasks >>>>> and help keep them full of good suggestions. Editathons are a great tool >>>>> for addressing the gendergap, and I would hate for them to get a >>>>> reputation >>>>> for just being self-promotional events. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Carol Moore dc < >>>>> carolmoor...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Someone should write a letter to the editor of the those 5 or 6 >>>>>> publications that came in my google alerts on the topic of the edit a >>>>>> thon. >>>>>> (Search news google to find them.) And of course deal with the few >>>>>> legtimate complaints and the trolls with nonsense complaints. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/12/2016 10:17 AM, Neotarf wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> All the articles created at Regina ArtAndFeminism event have been >>>>>>> tagged. Ten of them have been submitted for deletion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Regina/ArtAndFeminism_2016/University_of_Regina >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For example, see comments here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Risa_Horowitz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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