It was mostly a passing impulse that I was worried about, and decided to express, just in case.
But since I'm currently semi-wikibonked, and you're actually participating in the discussions (thanks!), you probably know more than I do. From, Emily On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote: > Emily, could you elaborate on your reason for thinking sexist Wikipedians > were a significant factor here? Having reviewed and engaged with several of > the articles and AfDs under discussion, I don't see any reason for that. In > my view, there were some unnecessarily unpleasant comments, but nothing > that struck me as sexist. But if I've missed something, I'd like to know. > -Pete > [[User:Peteforsyth]] > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Emily Monroe <emilymonro...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Do you think the draft templates were the issue? Maybe I'm overly >> cynical, perhaps they advertised the fact that they were created by arts >> and feminism to sexist wikipedians. >> >> From, >> Emily >> >> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Pharos <pharosofalexand...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> This is actually the 3rd year of Art+Feminism, and the organizers' focus >>> has consistently been on improving existing articles (particularly stubs!), >>> as most appropriate to new Wikipedians, particularly at this scale of >>> effort. >>> >>> Of course some new Wikipedians are eager to start new articles, and we >>> accommodate that as best we can, both with personal assistance from >>> long-term Wikipedians where possible, and also technical innovations like >>> the draft template system we premiered this year. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Pharos >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I very much agree, Emily. I wonder if this time, perhaps all the >>>> (wonderful and timely) media coverage of Emily Temple Wood's efforts to >>>> create new articles may have influenced organizers and/or participants? >>>> Perhaps it created a bit of a consensus, conscious or unconscious, that >>>> *creating new articles* was the main desired result. >>>> >>>> If so, this might be a bit of a one-time anomaly, may not indicate a >>>> need for major changes. >>>> >>>> -Pete >>>> [[User:Peteforsyth]] >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Emily Monroe <emilymonro...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In general, creating articles are very difficult. The learning curve >>>>> is steep, and it may be best to have people expand/improve articles >>>>> instead >>>>> of creating them. >>>>> >>>>> From, >>>>> Emily >>>>> On Mar 12, 2016 11:48 AM, "Ryan Kaldari" <rkald...@wikimedia.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I find it disappointing that so many of the Art and Feminism >>>>>> editathons end up focusing almost exclusively on creating new articles >>>>>> for >>>>>> artists at the hosting institution. Not only does this lead to a high >>>>>> percentage of the articles being deleted, but it's a waste of a huge >>>>>> opportunity to create and expand articles about artists and artworks with >>>>>> unquestionable notability and high encyclopedic value. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have no doubt that many of the Art and Feminism articles that are >>>>>> nominated for deletion are nominated due to gender bias (as some of them >>>>>> seem rather trivial to find sources for and improve), but many of them >>>>>> are >>>>>> also legitimately on the notability borderline. At all of the Art and >>>>>> Feminism editathons that I've volunteered at, I've discouraged people >>>>>> from >>>>>> creating articles about people they knew personally, and encouraged them >>>>>> to >>>>>> use the lists at >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism/Tasks >>>>>> instead. If you are helping to run an Art and Feminism editathon, I would >>>>>> also suggest doing this, as it provides more value for Wikipedia and >>>>>> leads >>>>>> to fewer deletions. I would also like to encourage everyone to edit the >>>>>> lists at >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism/Tasks >>>>>> and help keep them full of good suggestions. Editathons are a great tool >>>>>> for addressing the gendergap, and I would hate for them to get a >>>>>> reputation >>>>>> for just being self-promotional events. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Carol Moore dc < >>>>>> carolmoor...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Someone should write a letter to the editor of the those 5 or 6 >>>>>>> publications that came in my google alerts on the topic of the edit a >>>>>>> thon. >>>>>>> (Search news google to find them.) And of course deal with the few >>>>>>> legtimate complaints and the trolls with nonsense complaints. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/12/2016 10:17 AM, Neotarf wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All the articles created at Regina ArtAndFeminism event have been >>>>>>>> tagged. Ten of them have been submitted for deletion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Regina/ArtAndFeminism_2016/University_of_Regina >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For example, see comments here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Risa_Horowitz >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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