Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote: >You certainly followed the rules. �Thanks for saying this - its not easy for me to follow all the rules of this very complex social system - and i know i do make a lot of mistakes. please forgive me the next one. > I used to travel near you and present each year in the 80s at the Annual > Wittgenstein Symposia in Kircheberg am Wechsel. Are you aware of > that? Want to discuss that in here? lol. I guess that would be > appropriate. ;-) i am aware of the symposia - but dont know too much about Wittgensteins Philosophy - i guess its a good idea to discuss it. how about his concept of language games? "The term language game is meant to bring into prominence the fact that speaking a language is part of an activity, or a form of life." [1] "Misunderstanding concerning the use of words caused by certain analogies between the forms of expression in different regions of language" [2] This would come close to my original question 15 and 16 - it would indicate, that someone needs to "learn" the language used in a region (say virtual organization) in order to be efficient (without missundersandings) in communication. How fast can this be done? or the aphorisms: "If a lion could talk, we could not understand him," [3] No comment on this right now - but may be also interesting. "The question of truth is the question of trust" [4] In literature its often argued that, the trust is essential for building and maintaining virtual organizations - even or because its more difficult than in realworld (cannt see, cannt smell. .. or only different ways?). As far as I experienced jakarta untill now - you all have a strong common ground of what is true and what not. My question to this would be: How/Why does it work? BTW did you know Wechsel is also a common location for picking magic mushrooms in fall ;-)
Questions of high interest: Could you imagine using the term "to dock" in combination with the term "culture"? If yes, could you describe the connection between these terms? > I hope you understand > that being out of the loop in your own environment is a bit > disconcerting. As I said, good luck with your study, and I see you were > not the person at fault, if anyone was at fault. "What appears strange to an outsider can be perfectly meaningful seen from the standpoint of the practices of a society. Field-work is not an optional extra to anyone who wishes to understand properly what is going on. To understand the part you have to participate in the whole. We thus slip quickly to the position that participation is an absolute pre-condition for any understanding. Social Scientists are then faced with a dilemma. If they 'go native' they are hardly fulfilling a scientific role. Yet the alternative appears to be an inevitable failure to grasp what is really going on inside a culture." [5] Giving me a chance to get over this dilema will may be bring also interesting results to you. Sari -------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Heaton & Groves, 'Introducing Wittgenstein', Penguin; p. 23 [2] Heaton & Groves, 'Introducing Wittgenstein', Penguin; p. 111 [3] Wittgenstein [4] Rosenberg [5] Roger Trigg, "Wittgenstein and Social Science," in Wittgenstein Centenary Essays; p. 213-214 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
