On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 09:31 +0100, Arafat Medini wrote: > > [..] > > What do the questions have to do with the answers you gave I don't see > a relation btw doing translation for 20 years and Arabeyes being > degraded to "its initial state...". >
ie. we are not growing but shrinking. > Hmm, sure we are no experts but from my experience for eg. I started > and barely could write an arabic word with my PC today I know enough > to claim that I am doing concise and precise translations. What I want > to say is that you are not born as an expert you become one whether by > self-lerning or by learning from others. Absolutely -- I am not debating that, that's not the point. > Sure a mentor program is good still do you want to make every newcomer > go through a mentor program? Ok loose every newcomer then by now? > Better have a bad translation then no translation, and this brings me > to the first point, AS you are speaking about translation efforts > where is the new horizon you wanted to show us by questioning the fact > that we are only translating software... > We should be thinking of creating new things -- that's all I'm saying. > We still have problems ordering our internals, I think that's why > people can't really focus over the big picture. On the other hand > efforts like standardization and making Arabeyes a legal entity are > right steps in that direction. And also, what do you want Arabeys to Yes, it is a necessary step. > be ? Arabeyes is a project which incorporates nearly everything from > fonts to software regarding Arabic and FOSS. I personally always > thought we are even doing too much! Still we don't have enough money > nor people to even make basic things as translate KDE for eg. > I want to say, yeah let us even redefine Arabeyes to a food maker but > how? If you don't have enough resources. > You are hitting the main point. We don't have a long-term plan. > Well I don't care much about fame or prizes, at the end what really > matters (in the deb case) is that you have an Arabic installation > procedure, if we can participate in any form why not? What the other > ppl think of us good or bad does not interest me to be honest. If the > product works with 10% or 90% help from us then great Arabic works > under FOSS, goal reached, let's move to the next. > That's not the point. Sure, we want to have full Arabic support -- whether it comes from Arabeyes or someone else. However, the real question is, then what? Regards, Mohammed Elzubeir
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