Salam oualaykoum, First I send this mail to a personal email, because, each time I send it to [email protected], I receive a fail because bounce ...., althought i am suscribed!!!
This is our first problem, I can send a message to any list without problem, but arabeyes. is there any right and rational reason to stop a message best regards salam abdelkader --- Mohammed Elzubeir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 09:31 +0100, Arafat Medini > wrote: > > > > [..] > > > > What do the questions have to do with the answers > you gave I don't see > > a relation btw doing translation for 20 years and > Arabeyes being > > degraded to "its initial state...". > > > > ie. we are not growing but shrinking. > > > Hmm, sure we are no experts but from my experience > for eg. I started > > and barely could write an arabic word with my PC > today I know enough > > to claim that I am doing concise and precise > translations. What I want > > to say is that you are not born as an expert you > become one whether by > > self-lerning or by learning from others. > > Absolutely -- I am not debating that, that's not the > point. > > > Sure a mentor program is good still do you want to > make every newcomer > > go through a mentor program? Ok loose every > newcomer then by now? > > Better have a bad translation then no translation, > and this brings me > > to the first point, AS you are speaking about > translation efforts > > where is the new horizon you wanted to show us by > questioning the fact > > that we are only translating software... > > > > We should be thinking of creating new things -- > that's all I'm saying. > > > We still have problems ordering our internals, I > think that's why > > people can't really focus over the big picture. On > the other hand > > efforts like standardization and making Arabeyes a > legal entity are > > right steps in that direction. And also, what do > you want Arabeys to > > Yes, it is a necessary step. > > > be ? Arabeyes is a project which incorporates > nearly everything from > > fonts to software regarding Arabic and FOSS. I > personally always > > thought we are even doing too much! Still we don't > have enough money > > nor people to even make basic things as translate > KDE for eg. > > I want to say, yeah let us even redefine Arabeyes > to a food maker but > > how? If you don't have enough resources. > > > > You are hitting the main point. We don't have a > long-term plan. > > > Well I don't care much about fame or prizes, at > the end what really > > matters (in the deb case) is that you have an > Arabic installation > > procedure, if we can participate in any form why > not? What the other > > ppl think of us good or bad does not interest me > to be honest. If the > > product works with 10% or 90% help from us then > great Arabic works > > under FOSS, goal reached, let's move to the next. > > > > That's not the point. Sure, we want to have full > Arabic support -- > whether it comes from Arabeyes or someone else. > However, the real > question is, then what? > > Regards, > Mohammed Elzubeir > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.arabeyes.org/mailman/listinfo/general ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
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