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On 4/7/15 1:39 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> 
> 
> Currently the footer for attic.apache.org <http://attic.apache.org> says:
> 
> "Apache and the Apache feather logo are trademarks of The Apache
> Software Foundation."
> 
> I'd like to propose changing it to:
> 
> "Apache, 'The Apache Attic' and the Apache feather logo are trademarks
> of The Apache Software Foundation. We encourage you however to setup
> your own Attics and wish to make it clear we have no intent of claiming
> the 'Attic' name by itself as a trademark. "

s/The Apache Attic/Apache Attic/

Sounds fine; while it's a common word, the use of Attic to store
software projects not being currently developed *could* still be a
defensible trademark for the service being provided (i.e. continued
access to archives, links to ways to re-build a new project, etc.).

However if the Apache Attic PMC explicitly does *not* want to claim the
bare name ATTIC as a trademark, that's fine - but it should be a clear
decision by the PMC to explicitly disclaim it.

Note that in this case, I agree; the benefit of encouraging other
foundations/projects to maintain their "legacy" community developed
projects for public access is far more important than trying to protect
this as a brand for the ASF, so this sounds great.

- Shane

P.S. It feels like it would be really useful to have an intro para on
the homepage that actually explains what the Attic is to newcomers: a
way that we ensure source code and discussions about an inactive project
from the past are provided in a stable home for the public good and the
benefit of past and future users.  (I'm having horrible writer's block
this month, so hopefully someone will pick that up rather than waiting a
while for my patch...  8-)

> 
> What would be a better way of doing that?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Hen

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