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> On 30 Apr 2018, at 22:28, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:
> 
> Le lundi 30 avril 2018, 21:03:24 CEST Jan Iversen a écrit :
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>>> On 30 Apr 2018, at 20:43, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't get what's the issue with creating a test Git repo, that is
>>> independent from anything else, and that was discussed on the ML
>> 
>> There are no issue as such, it is just that lately we have seen a lot of
>> things happening very uncoordinated. In this case it happened crossing
>> another (slightly older, but with positive comments) to move the production
>> to git.
>> 
>> I would have preferred a more organized way, e.g. making sure a test site
>> (or build bot) will have someone to maintain it, before just doing it.
>> However this is just my opinion, which, even though I did the maintenance,
>> seems to count very little.
>> 
>> Please lets stop this discussion, done is done, and I (as
>> chair/pmc/committer) will have to accept the consequences.
> there are no consequences to creating a test git repo

I think you mean there are no technical consequences, which are totally right, 
but there are other types, like e.g. the effect on the community or personally 
for people doing the maintenance. This action was for me the newest drop in a 
long chain of rain, but please I am NOT thinking or suggesting you did anything 
wrong, I am just tired.

rgds
jan I
> 
>> 
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>> 
>>> I did the exact same at GitHub just because it was outside Apache then was
>>> even more clear that it was a side test to have  chance to get common
>>> tests
>>> instead of long discussions where it's clear that a part of the discussion
>>> is that we don't have the same initial culture on the technical parts
>>> 
>>> regards,
>>> 
>>> Hervé
>>> 
>>> Le lundi 30 avril 2018, 19:39:16 CEST Jan Iversen a écrit :
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> We just received an email that attic-test.git is created, on private,
>>>> which
>>>> I cannot relay here due to apache policy (which I agree with).
>>>> 
>>>> I can however relay my response, what apart from a “thank you” was a call
>>>> to all:
>>>> 
>>>> “I must however state that the word “consensus” seems to mean nothing in
>>>> our little community. I remember we have discussed transferring the site
>>>> to git, something I would have done tomorrow based on the positive
>>>> comments... but attic-test, where did that come from.”
>>>> 
>>>> I am concerned about people going in different directions, without trying
>>>> to get consensus, what the community wants, that way we will never reach
>>>> a state where we can get a new site online.
>>>> 
>>>> PMC members know who made the request in self-service but not who
>>>> initiated
>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>> A concerned committer/PMC/Chair
>>>> jan I
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
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