Ricky Salmon wrote: <em>> As for current windows machines, a million and one trojans already exist. <em>> So my question is, is it the responsibly of the Vendor to make sure the <em>> users know how to use a computer, or is it the responsibility of the user to <em>> know how to use a computer? <p>It depends on the market. For sales to home users I think the vendor should take most of the responsibily. <p><em>> As much as I love that certain vendor (sarcasm), their main focus is to put <em>> out more productive products with a fair amount of security. There aren't <em>> enough resources in the world to make sure that every Joe Blow isn't leaving <em>> themselves open... <p>True. Regards, Dustin <p><em>> <em>> My 2 cents... <em>> <em>> Ricky <em>> <em>> <em>> <em>> -----Original Message----- <em>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <em>> Behalf Of John Hebert <em>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:02 AM <em>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <em>> Subject: Re: [brluglist] Fw: Steve Gibson's July/2001 News from GRC.COM <em>> ... <em>> <em>> <em>> <em>> --- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <em>> <em>>>Hmm. Is this about the raw socket deal with Windows <em>>>XP? Raw sockets have <em>>>been available in the UNIX world for a while, so I <em>>>guess that means UNIX <em>>>vendors are no better? <em>>> <em>> <em>>>From my understanding of Gibson's writings, he says <em>> that raw sockets are a problem in Windows XP because <em>> most people use M$ Windows operating systems <em>> (well, duh) AND M$ doesn't seem to have its act <em>> together when it comes to network security (hmmm, <em>> he's got a point). So, distributing M$ Windows XP <em>> with raw sockets for home users who don't properly <em>> secure their machines will only give DDOS script <em>> kiddies more platforms to attack from. <em>> <em>> :P <em>> <em>> John <em>> <em>> __________________________________________________ <em>> Do You Yahoo!? <em>> Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail <em>> http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ <em>> ================================================ <em>> BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group <em>> Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. <em>> Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change <em>> your subscription information. <em>> ================================================ <em>> <em>> ================================================ <em>> BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group <em>> Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. <em>> Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change <em>> your subscription information. <em>> ================================================ <em>> <em>> <em>> <p> -- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear In the beginning the Universe was created. This has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams ================================================ BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change your subscription information. ================================================
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