--- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 07:05 PM 4/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Because open source means open libraries, open
> >documentation and open standards, whereas closed
> >source means that not everything is disclosed.
> >
> >And what I said initially was that it is easier to
> >screw up closed source because the libraries/APIs
> are
> >not fully disclosed. At least in M$'s case.
> 
> That might have been implied, but wasn't stated.

Yeah, yeah. Whatever. 

> Regardless, I'm not sure 
> that I fully agree with this train of thought. Some
> products do fully 
> disclose their APIs.

If it's closed source, how do know if the API is fully
disclosed or not? You can't know. It comes down to
trust. And I trust open source more than I trust
closed source (commercial) software, but at least the
software can be compared to the API.

> In that situation is it still
> the case that it is 
> easier to introduce errors into code in close source
> projects?

Situation does not exist, see above. Your trust in
commercial software's disclosed API/documentation is
my measure of how much advertising dollars they have
thrown at you.

> All in all though, I do agree that more
> documentation does provide better 
> results.

Duh.

> I'm not sure though if we can use a blanket
> statement that open 
> source software is better documented in a [form that
> is immediately 
> usable].

It's not. It can be. You can't verify that closed
source is fully documented. Therein lies the rub.

> However, the fact that you can view open
> source code gives you the 
> potential for more documentation, but it also
> requires more work. So that 
> is a trade-off if you follow that line of reasoning.
>

Wow, did I really just hold my own in an argument with
Dustin? I'm going to Disneyland!

John Hebert
 
> Regards, Dustin
> 
> 
> 
> >John Hebert
> >
> >--- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > At 05:39 PM 4/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >Yes.
> > >
> > > How does writing open source software reduce the
> > > number of errors that you
> > > introduce into code? In my view open source
> software
> > > only increases the
> > > number of eyeballs that can spot those errors.
> > >
> > > Regards, Dustin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >John Hebert
> > > >
> > > >--- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > At 03:25 PM 4/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > > >Sounds like a combination of problems. But,
> > > when it
> > > > > >comes to tracking down problems, I _always_
> > > suspect
> > > > > >software, not hardware, first. Software is
> just
> > > > > easier
> > > > > >to screw up, especially on a closed source
> > > > > operating
> > > > > >system. Now, it may be that the hardware in
> the
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think closed software is easier to
> "screw
> > > up"
> > > > > or simply more
> > > > > difficult to fix? Does writing open source
> > > software
> > > > > reduce the number of
> > > > > errors you introduce into code, or increase
> the
> > > > > number of people able to
> > > > > spot the errors?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards, Dustin
> > > > >
> > > > >
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