No offence ever taken Sir John.... and I kinda like my my lil pantie
wad... ;)
Sorry my responce even sounded gruff... I was truely trying to keep it
lite
hearted...
As with all things, it's truely a matter of opinion...

The one thing though I would like to point out though since you did take
the
time to read Steve Gibsons account of a DOS attack... His whole ordeal
did start
out with a passing mention of the term "script kiddies" (how trivial),
and that
lazy individual caused a major problem for him (and Steve wasn't even
trying to
be offensive). Just people with WAY to much time on their hands.....

I agree full heartly with your opinions (string'em up), but I also have
a full
respect for these individuals (who aren't all just kiddies was the point
I
ineffectively tried to get across).

Heck, I thought this was a constructive discussion...
Enough can never be said about security these days....

Oh yeah.... Sir Buck... John is absolutely right by learning your
systems
security before jumping into the root kits, I just assumed you were past
that
part. Silly me...

Welp folks, enjoy...... Try not to hurt each other ;)

Nat Out



John Hebert wrote:

> Buck,
>
> I'm all for learning new things, but my advice was and
> is that you do not start with looking at what script
> kiddies do and instead learn basic network security. A
> properly secured network firewall is your best
> protection. Once you have that in place, then by all
> means go look at root kits. But I think you will find
> the learning curve steep.
>
> John Hebert
>
> --- "\"Cap'n Buck\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Gentlemen:
> >
> > By my post, I did NOT mean to set anyone off.  I did
> > ask for "private
> > replies."
> > This would have eliminated any rancor on the list.
> > If abyone has any
> > further
> > "advice" please E-mail or E-Maul (flame) me at:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I'm new at this so please forgive my ignorance.  I
> > just want to protect my
> > stuff
> > from being "cracked" by some smartass 14 year old
> > and passed around the
> > WWW or the WWF, LOL!
> >
> > Buck 3:16
> >
> >
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