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i work there now, and they block port 80 for sure, least in most areas. 
 and they grew from 25,000 customers to 61,000 in the last 3 months, 
mainly because of geaux box, and the other recent specials.

neal


Scott Harney wrote:

>Having worked for a Cable provider in the past here's the deal.  They're not 
>likely to bug you unless you're bringing a lot of traffic.  They probably 
>will have software that watches that.  Stuff moving to inbound ports -- even 
>low numbered "well-known" ports -- isn't going to bug them unless it's a lot 
>of traffic.  Or there's some other abuse tied to it.  Cox has something like 
>25K customers in the B.R. market.  They don't have TIME for piddly things 
>like that.
>
>They won't call it "theft of service" (that would be "uncapping" your modem
>and thus stealing bandwidth).  That's something I'm quite certain they watch 
>for.  they'll call it "violation of AUP" and ask you to turn off the 
>offending server at worst.  Unless you're trading warez or doing something 
>else more nefarious.
>
>On Monday 14 October 2002 21:04, Terry Stockdale wrote:
>  
>
>>They do not have to scan you.  They can easily watch for inbound TCP
>>packets with the SYN flag set.  These are connection requests.  It they
>>watch for corresponding outbound responses from the target IP address to
>>the original sender IP address, they will  know that you're running a
>>server.  Now, whether they watch or not is a whole 'nother issue. Maybe
>>they'll just assume its another Windows security bug.
>>
>>So, the real question is, are you going to do it?  If you do, you _can_ get
>>caught, and you take your medicine whether it's disconnection or something
>>more dramatic (can anyone say "theft of cable service"?).  Just what are
>>you willing to risk?
>>
>>At 09:27 PM 10/14/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>(Not really a linux question, but any way...)
>>>
>>>As you may or may not know, I am trying to set up a web server. I am on
>>>Cox residential interner service, and have read that they don't allow
>>>servers to be run on their residential service. I tried contacting Cox
>>>about this issue, but all they would say is that "cox does not allow
>>>servers." After some research, I found that it will cost an extra $10 for
>>>a slow 128k business connection so I could run a server. How ever, I know
>>>someone who runs a server using the residential service using No-IP
>>>Dynamic DNS software on port 8080. Is it true that they can detect if I am
>>>using software like this, and will they cancil my account if they detect
>>>me running that software? Do they just scan the ports that are blocked, or
>>>do they scan all ports? What if I use a different port besides port 80?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any help,
>>>
>>>Steven
>>>      
>>>
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i work there now, and they block port 80 for sure, least in most areas. 
&nbsp;and
they grew from 25,000 customers to 61,000 in the last 3 months, mainly because
of geaux box, and the other recent specials.<br>
<br>
neal<br>
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Scott Harney wrote:<br>
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  <pre wrap="">Having worked for a Cable provider in the past here's the deal.  
They're not 
likely to bug you unless you're bringing a lot of traffic.  They probably 
will have software that watches that.  Stuff moving to inbound ports -- even 
low numbered "well-known" ports -- isn't going to bug them unless it's a lot 
of traffic.  Or there's some other abuse tied to it.  Cox has something like 
25K customers in the B.R. market.  They don't have TIME for piddly things 
like that.

They won't call it "theft of service" (that would be "uncapping" your modem
and thus stealing bandwidth).  That's something I'm quite certain they watch 
for.  they'll call it "violation of AUP" and ask you to turn off the 
offending server at worst.  Unless you're trading warez or doing something 
else more nefarious.

On Monday 14 October 2002 21:04, Terry Stockdale wrote:
  </pre>
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    <pre wrap="">They do not have to scan you.  They can easily watch for 
inbound TCP
packets with the SYN flag set.  These are connection requests.  It they
watch for corresponding outbound responses from the target IP address to
the original sender IP address, they will  know that you're running a
server.  Now, whether they watch or not is a whole 'nother issue. Maybe
they'll just assume its another Windows security bug.

So, the real question is, are you going to do it?  If you do, you _can_ get
caught, and you take your medicine whether it's disconnection or something
more dramatic (can anyone say "theft of cable service"?).  Just what are
you willing to risk?

At 09:27 PM 10/14/2002 -0400, you wrote:
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">(Not really a linux question, but any way...)

As you may or may not know, I am trying to set up a web server. I am on
Cox residential interner service, and have read that they don't allow
servers to be run on their residential service. I tried contacting Cox
about this issue, but all they would say is that "cox does not allow
servers." After some research, I found that it will cost an extra $10 for
a slow 128k business connection so I could run a server. How ever, I know
someone who runs a server using the residential service using No-IP
Dynamic DNS software on port 8080. Is it true that they can detect if I am
using software like this, and will they cancil my account if they detect
me running that software? Do they just scan the ports that are blocked, or
do they scan all ports? What if I use a different port besides port 80?

Thanks for any help,

Steven
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