Dustin, I will be interested in doing this. Where is this going to take
place? If it is in LSU and we can get one of the rooms with the projectors,
how easy is to get your laptop to interface with the equipment? I would like
to have powerpoint presentation which will also be showcasing OpenOffice.
Handouts will also be OK I guess.
Goal: To showcase Linux as a an inexpensive powerful development workhorse
born within the academic community equivalent or better than any profit
oriented counterpart; hopefully, someone will realize that anyone serious
about computer science should take advantage, contribute, and enjoy of open
source development.
Points:
Languages available and utilities. It would be nice to give a homework
in programming languages class where students should have a few versions of
the same program in different programming languages and write a 1000 words
paper discussing the differences, similarities, advantages and disadvantages
etc; or, would this be against Linux? This type of exercise is not possible
under a commercial environment because the tools are only available if you
sacrificed your beer money of your entire undergraduate career. I think I
paid $150 dollars for an academic version of CodeWarrior. If I would have
purchased Turbo Assembler I would still be regretting not having donated my
money to the local pub.
Academia: money is not an issue when designing a teaching course.
Software distributed as source. There is a myth that Linux users have
access to the source code and therefore can fix the bugs in their programs,
right! Many Linux savvy users feel lucky enough to get a clean compile of an
application and hardly dare to look at compilation directive scripts; but
the point is that the possibility is there. I once fixed an application!
That was easy but I feel so proud of it. It was a Window Maker dock
application wmmultipop or wmmail, I have to check. Anyway. I was using a
command for my email applications such as " aterm -bg white -fg
black -tr -trsb -tint green -sh 40 -e pine " and the thing kept crashing. It
turned out that the command string was to longer than the allocated memory
for the array holding the string. I just change the array to hold more
elements and voila.
Academia: users have access to the code which are real life solutions to
a problem. The didactic benefits are great, real life code inspection. Once
again, how about getting a program and breaking it for students to debug it?
I never had that opportunity coming from a teacher.
I would like to put together a few points addressing the academic benefits
such as this. Then submitting them to the group for suggestions about what
software to show and what to talk about to get the interest of the audience.
Any comments and help are greatly welcome. This is exciting.
Alvaro
---- Original Message -----
From: "Dustin Puryear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] LSU ACM meeting
> At 11:04 AM 10/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Dustin,
> >
> >I cannot remember last time that I did a public presentation without my
> >cello but it cannot be that different, so I think this would be fun. Who
> >will be attending? What level? I do not know anything about compiler
> >optimization if that is necessary.
>
> Uh, no. That wouldn't be a bit too involved. We would want an overview of
> the various tools available with Linux for software development using
> various languages such as C, Java, Perl, Python, and so forth. Would you
> like to do this? I see a presentation that discusses the various tools
> including compilers, IDEs, debuggers, and available documentation.
>
> >Does anyone know of a good place to learn Glade? I looked into it once
but
> >the information was scarce and what I found was not that great. That
would
> >be a nice one to show along with Kdevelop both of which I have no idea
how
> >they work.
> >
> >About Codewarrior, nothing wrong with using commercial stuff, is there?
In
> >fact I think you were explaining to me a few years ago while you were
doing
> >the review that codewarrior combines the gnu libraries with their shell.
I
>
> My point was that I can't give you a copy since it's commercial.
>
> >think that is a great example to show the marriage between the open and
> >commercial world, objectionably similar to qt and kde. I once looked into
> >getting me a copy for $79 at the time compared to $599 for the Mac, Be,
or
> >Windows version. I suppose they are selling you the GUI which is where I
> >find the power, particularly the debugger.
>
> Not a bad idea. I'll see if I can find the software and I'll just give it
> to you.
>
> Regards, Dustin
>
>
>
>
> >let me know the details, later
> >
> >Alvaro
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Dustin Puryear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:41 AM
> >Subject: Re: [brlug-general] LSU ACM meeting
> >
> >
> > > At 02:39 AM 10/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >Hi Dustin:
> > > >Do you still have a copy of CodeWarrior for Linux? I have never had
the
> > > >chance to use it in Linux but I used quite a bit in Macs and also
> > > >Windows( buggy in 1998 v5 ). If I can get a hold of this tool I would
> > > >love to show it off assuming. I think is the coolest software I have
> > > >ever used( actually ever since I tried it I never looked for anything
> > > >elsewhere, unbeatable ).
> > >
> > > I may still have it around here someone, but CodeWarrior is
commercial.
> > >
> > > >Another application that I have been using recently is Quanta. If you
> > > >can get this running in KDE with a translucent theme people will love
it
> > > >for sure because it looks incredible.
> > > >
> > > >Finally, the countless editors with color scheme and language savvy
> > > >capabilities, GIMP, the countless languages available, icon editors.
> > > >etc.
> > > >
> > > >I would love to be part of this
> > >
> > > Sure. So you want to do the development side?
> > >
> > > Regards, Dustin
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
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