I tried to make a joke by taking you literally and imagining someone using the 
same two random nics in all the boxes they build for years.  This would imply 
that the old box is given a new nic or made stand alone each time a new box was 
built.  Sooner or later, you would rub off the gold plate.  Didn't your mom 
tell you that your box would go blind like that?  If that's not special, I'm 
not sure what is.  

If you have not used exactly the same two network cards as Mat, it might be 
something for Mat to check out.  No big deal at all, just trying to be helpful. 
 Blame Yates if it's a dead end, but don't be too hard on him.  That paragraph 
about being sandwiched between two circuit boards and pierced with solder 
spikes is one of the funniest things I've seen in print.  It's so funny I could 
forgive him for being wrong.

If configuration changes don't work, I'd swap out the nics.  If I wanted to 
preserve my setup, I'd use a spare hard drive and do a fresh install.  I've got 
tons of junk sitting around.  If it worked, I'd figure out how to get the stuff 
I wanted together.  

On 2003.03.05 15:57 Scott Harney wrote:
> will hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> I'm still trying to figure out why it's such a big deal.  The truth
> is, I have 3 disparate network cards.  One is wireless.  There's tons
> of documentation on pf for BSD's where folks reference their external
> interface as one hw type (say xl0) and their internal card is another
> (ne0).  If I have a stable environment, why would I start swapping out
> hardware?(1)  I suppose there are some instances of two different network
> cards interacting poorly but I'd say in my eperience this is not a
> frequent case.  I'm curious now as to why you perceive this to be 
> "special".
> 
> I don't know if the original poster's issue was fixed, I just assume it was
> 
> 
>

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