Well the academic pricing we get from Microsoft is insanely cheap.  
Sometimes over 90% off retail. i can get Win2k3 server std for $83.  
Retail at cdw.com is $939.  sometimes i think it should be illegal how
they practically give it to us, but charge everyone else a nut....

Now, whenever we talk about a campus wide licensing agreement, then they 
want to charge based on FTE.  The pricing is then insanely expensive. And 
you don't buy the software, you lease it.

-ray


On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Will Lowe wrote:

> Actually, I think that the education angle is the only reason Apple is still
> with us. They early on heavily promoted their products at a very reduced
> cost to students.
> 
> Will Lowe
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shannon Roddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] humorous interview with Bill Gates on Linux
> 
> 
> > Alvaro Zuniga wrote:
> >
> > >Something that I have to credit to Bill Gates is that he is a Master of
> > >Business, legal or illegal or in which ever negative or positive way you
> wish
> > >to put it. The proof is not only wealth but also the popularity of his
> > >business and how he has managed to do what he does out in the open.
> > >
> > >The key word of Bill Gates interview is education. I  believe this is one
> of
> > >the main  strategies of Microsoft as Bill Gates clearly expresses that
> fact.
> > >Most of the decision makers of our generation studied computer science,
> > >learned about or with computers at the time the PC, Dos and Windows were
> > >emerging. This decision makers were not fortunate enough to have the
> > >different choices we now enjoy; nevertheless, they control most of the
> key
> > >positions needed to incorporate Linux to the Corporate setting. Education
> is
> > >the pr oven means to a change.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Actually, I personally think that M$ is losing out in the realm of
> > education.  All of the younger "techies" that I talk to are using Linux,
> > at least "on the side".  There are fewer and fewer "kids" (I am not that
> > old myself...) that I talk to that are either EE, CS, or any computer
> > related degree seeking undergraduate students who still use windows as
> > their preferred OS.  There has been only one CS instructor at LSU that I
> > have taken any classes from that was sold on windows.  Of course this
> > guy tried to tell me 1 1/2 years ago that there was no such thing as a
> > 64 bit OS at that time.  Uh... Excuse me?  Solaris????  The guy was a M$
> > junkie.  Of course, he works for Unisys.
> >
> > Anyway, the original point of this is that I think the younger
> > generation is becoming more and more a concentration of Linux/UNIX
> > users.  In 1995 I was first introduced to Linux.  I was 22 years old and
> > a 14 year old kid introduced me to Slackware.  I have been hooked ever
> > since.  The point is that he was 14 years old, writing his own code
> > (supposedly he had a couple of kernel patches to his credit, of course
> > he could have been pulling my leg), and running linux as his PRIMARY OS
> > (even in those days).  Everywhere I go I find more and more teenage to
> > twenty-something year old people running Linux and hating microsoft.
> >  So, I think the tide is turning for old Billy Boy....
> >
> > I have found this to be especially true in Houston since I have started
> > hanging out there some weekends.  I think over the next ten years there
> > will be a gradual shift to *nix and away from windows.  just seems the
> > way it is going to me.  Of course I have been wrong before....
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Please be kind when you ~bash~ me!
> > >
> > >
> >
> > But that takes all of the fun out of it!
> >
> > Shannon
> >
> > >Alvaro Zuniga
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Monday 30 June 2003 09:44 am, Shannon Roddy wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2003-06-29-gates-linux_x.htm
> > >>
> > >>He is squirming nowadays....
> > >>
> > >>Shannon
> > >>
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