If you are pay for X amount of bandwidth and you use Y amount of bandwidth, and Y > X then its probably stealing (its just the way I think about it). The ISP gave these people only so much bandwidth, if they take more then its stealing. One of the people only uncapped for a couple of minutes, what if I only stole a car for a couple of minutes, I doubt that person would be to happy about it (this might not be the greatest example). If you use a FTP server, you do not take more then your allocated amount of bandwidth, so I don't see it as stealing, might be against TOS but its not stealing. I do not agree with the way that the ISP dealt with the people uncapping, but I do see how they can justify uncapping as stealing, especially in a market were every bit of bandwidth cost money, and uncapping could cause a company to pay for a hole lot more bandwidth.
Dennis On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 14:25, will hill wrote: > On 2003.07.14 12:45 Dennis Rowe wrote: > > They said that the uncappers were stealing bandwidth. Ftp servers do > > not steal bandwidth. It might not agree with the TOS but it will not > > get the fbi on you. If they attacked every server, then everything from > > kazaa to msn messenger would be affected. > > > > Dennis > > > > I'm not sure they "stole" bandwidth. One of the people raided only uncapped > for short bursts. He used it to save himself time uploading his work from > home. The uploads would have simply taken him longer. > > The laws might be insanely impractical, but they are what they are. That it > can happen does not mean that it will. I understand that AOL instant > messenger, for instance, has it's own little server on port 21. Just the > same, the low probability of such a thing happening to me is not zero. They > could log up my ftp use and bust me. It's all the same thing, obtaining data > services without permission. The No Electronic Theft act is stupid but it's > there. > > I'm not a very practical target. The 3 gigs of photos and what not I used > to serve out to friends and family by ftp don't make a very inviting target > either. Imagine the kind of publicity they would get for raiding someone > sharing baby pictures with their mom. Still, it's different enough to get me > in trouble. Not a lot of people run ftp, so it would not hurt Cox badly if > they did something ugly. I could easily be lumped into a group of > unsophisticated warez traders. I never consumed much bandwidth, but other > people running ftp sites have. > > ftp on Cox is not practical anymore anyway, so I just don't do it. They have > changed my ip several times and uploads from their crimped modems are > painfully slow. > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >
