uddled around Windows since Microsoft was trying to market a 
product that would reduce cost, and, so they were told, headaches. Sound 
familiar?

Java is basically open with a few gotchas. So is .NET. They can both get you.

I think we have had this argument before, but about Apple. My point then as 
now is that just because a company is an underdog when it comes to a 
particular market or issue doesn't make it benign.

At 04:57 PM 8/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>You are a funny guy.
>
>Sun can't afford to lock it down as long as M$ remains the 800lb gorilla.
>I don't see M$ losing its status any time soon.
>
>Besides, they would have to lock up the openly available JavaVM spec, which
>would pizz off just a few (most) Java developers. There's always the
>clean-room developed Kaffe VM ...
>
>So, comparing VB to Java is not a good comparison at all. Sun relies on a
>community-developed Java spec. VB (and most M$ tools it seems) are designed
>by hordes of marketing monkeys: "How do we fight Java...?" "I know, let's
>develop an imitation called C#! Get it? C-Sharp! Like the musical notation!
>Isn't that cool?"
>
>M$ lost their geek cachet a looong time ago.
>
>John Hebert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dustin Puryear
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: 8/27/03 3:58 PM
>Subject: RE: [brlug-general] Microsoft Windows: Insecure by Design
>
>At 08:49 AM 8/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >really learn how server computing worked for myself, instead of
>gleaning
> >clues from M$ documentation.
> >
> >And to be perfectly honest and self-incriminating, I am sending this
>message
> >from a M$ Windoze XP laptop, because my job requires it (VB
>programming).
> >However, my company is moving away from M$ and towards Java (whee!). It
>
>Until Sun begins locking down..
>
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